On 12-Jul-19 10:17 AM, Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran wrote:

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Subject: [EXT] Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/4] add IOVA = VA support in KNI

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On 7/4/2019 10:48 AM, Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran wrote:
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Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/4] add IOVA = VA support in KNI

Hi All,

Just to summarize, below items have arisen from the initial review.
1) Can the new mempool flag be made default to all the pools and will
there be case that new flag functionality would fail  for some page sizes.?

If the minimum huge page size is 2MB and normal huge page size is
512MB or 1G. So I think, new flags can be default as skipping the page
boundaries for Mempool objects has nearly zero overhead. But I leave
decision to maintainers.

2) Adding HW device info(pci dev info) to KNI device structure, will it
break KNI on virtual devices in VA or PA mode.?

Iommu_domain will be created only for PCI devices and the system runs
in IOVA_VA mode. Virtual devices(IOVA_DC(don't care) or IOVA_PA
devices still it works without PCI device structure)

It is  a useful feature where KNI can run without root privilege and
it is pending for long time. Request to review and close this

I support the idea to remove 'kni' forcing to the IOVA=PA mode, but also not
sure about forcing all KNI users to update their code to allocate mempool in a
very specific way.

What about giving more control to the user on this?

Any user want to use IOVA=VA and KNI together can update application to
justify memory allocation of the KNI and give an explicit "kni iova_mode=1"
config.

Where this config comes, eal or kni sample app or KNI public API?


Who want to use existing KNI implementation can continue to use it with
IOVA=PA mode which is current case, or for this case user may need to force
the DPDK application to IOVA=PA but at least there is a workaround.

And kni sample application should have sample for both case, although this
increases the testing and maintenance cost, I hope we can get support from
you on the iova_mode=1 usecase.

What do you think?

IMO, If possible we can avoid extra indirection of new config. In worst case
We can add it. How about following to not have new config

1) Make MEMPOOL_F_NO_PAGE_BOUND  as default
http://patches.dpdk.org/patch/55277/
There is absolutely zero overhead of this flag considering the huge page size 
are minimum
2MB. Typically 512MB or 1GB.
Any one has any objection?

Pretty much zero overhead in hugepage case, not so in non-hugepage case. It's rare, but since we support it, we have to account for it.

(also, i don't really like the name NO_PAGE_BOUND since in memzone API there's a "bounded memzone" allocation API, and this flag's name reads like objects would not be bounded by page size, not that they won't cross page boundary)


2) Introduce rte_kni_mempool_create() API in kni lib to abstract the
Mempool requirement for KNI. This will enable portable KNI applications.

This means that using KNI is not a drop-in replacement for any other PMD. If maintainers of KNI are OK with this then sure :)

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Thanks,
Anatoly

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