On 26.11.2018 15:50, Burakov, Anatoly wrote: > On 26-Nov-18 11:43 AM, Burakov, Anatoly wrote: >> On 26-Nov-18 11:33 AM, Asaf Sinai wrote: >>> Hi Anatoly, >>> >>> We did not check it with "testpmd", only with our application. >>> From the beginning, we did not enable this configuration (look at attached >>> files), and everything works fine. >>> Of course we rebuild DPDK, when we change configuration. >>> Please note that we use DPDK 17.11.3, maybe this is why it works fine? >> >> Just tested with DPDK 17.11, and yes, it does work the way you are >> describing. This is not intended behavior. I will look into it. >> > > +CC author of commit introducing CONFIG_RTE_EAL_NUMA_AWARE_HUGEPAGES. > > Looking at the code, i think this config option needs to be reworked and we > should clarify what we mean by this option. It appears that i've > misunderstood what this option actually intended to do, and i also think it's > naming could be improved because it's confusing and misleading. > > In 17.11, this option does *not* prevent EAL from using NUMA - it merely > disables using libnuma to perform memory allocation. This looks like intended > (if counter-intuitive) behavior - disabling this option will simply revert > DPDK to working as it did before this option was introduced (i.e. best-effort > allocation). This is why your code still works - because EAL still does > allocate memory on socket 1, and *knows* that it's socket 1 memory. It still > supports NUMA. > > The commit message for these changes states that the actual purpose of this > option is to enable "balanced" hugepage allocation. In case of cgroups > limitations, previously, DPDK would've exhausted all hugepages on master > core's socket before attempting to allocate from other sockets, but by the > time we've reached cgroups limits on numbers of hugepages, we might not have > reached socket 1 and thus missed out on the pages we could've allocated, but > didn't. Using libnuma solves this issue, because now we can allocate pages on > sockets we want, instead of hoping we won't run out of hugepages before we > get the memory we need. > > In 18.05 onwards, this option works differently (and arguably wrong). More > specifically, it disallows allocations on sockets other than 0, and it also > makes it so that EAL does not check which socket the memory *actually* came > from. So, not only allocating memory from socket 1 is disabled, but > allocating from socket 0 may even get you memory from socket 1!
I'd consider this as a bug. > > +CC Thomas > > The CONFIG_RTE_EAL_NUMA_AWARE_HUGEPAGES option is a misnomer, because it > makes it seem like this option disables NUMA support, which is not the case. > > I would also argue that it is not relevant to 18.05+ memory subsystem, and > should only work in legacy mode, because it is *impossible* to make it work > right in the new memory subsystem, and here's why: > > Without libnuma, we have no way of "asking" the kernel to allocate a hugepage > on a specific socket - instead, any allocation will most likely happen on > socket from which the allocation came from. For example, if user program's > lcore is on socket 1, allocation on socket 0 will actually allocate a page on > socket 1. > > If we don't check for page's NUMA node affinity (which is what currently > happens) - we get performance degradation because we may unintentionally > allocate memory on wrong NUMA node. If we do check for this - then allocation > of memory on socket 1 from lcore on socket 0 will almost never succeed, > because kernel will always give us pages on socket 0. > > Put it simply, there is no sane way to make this option work for the new > memory subsystem - IMO it should be dropped, and libnuma should be made a > hard dependency on Linux. I agree that new memory model could not work without libnuma, i.e. will lead to unpredictable memory allocations with no any respect to requested socket_id's. I also agree that CONFIG_RTE_EAL_NUMA_AWARE_HUGEPAGES is only sane for a legacy memory model. It looks like we have no other choice than just drop the option and make the code unconditional, i.e. have hard dependency on libnuma. Best regards, Ilya Maximets.
