-----Original Message-----
> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 07:34:34 +0000
> From: Ola Liljedahl <ola.liljed...@arm.com>
> To: "Kokkilagadda, Kiran" <kiran.kokkilaga...@cavium.com>, Honnappa
> Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>, Gavin Hu <gavin...@arm.com>,
> Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yi...@intel.com>, "Jacob, Jerin"
> <jerin.jacobkollanukka...@cavium.com>
> CC: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>, nd <n...@arm.com>, Steve Capper
> <steve.cap...@arm.com>
> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] kni: fix kni Rx fifo producer
> synchronization
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>
> Is the rte_kni kernel/user binary interface subject to backwards
> compatibility requirements? Or can we change it for a new DPDK release?
What would be the change in interface? Is it removing the volatile for
C11 case, Then you can use anonymous union OR #define to keep the size
and offset of the element intact.
struct rte_kni_fifo {
#ifndef RTE_C11...
volatile unsigned write; /**< Next position to be written*/
volatile unsigned read; /**< Next position to be read */
#else
unsigned write; /**< Next position to be written*/
unsigned read; /**< Next position to be read */
#endif
unsigned len; /**< Circular buffer length */
unsigned elem_size; /**< Pointer size - for 32/64 bitOS */
void *volatile buffer[]; /**< The buffer contains mbuf
pointers */
};
Anonymous union example:
https://git.dpdk.org/dpdk/tree/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.h#n461
You can check the ABI breakage by devtools/validate-abi.sh
>
> -- Ola
>
> From: "Kokkilagadda, Kiran" <kiran.kokkilaga...@cavium.com>
> Date: Wednesday, 29 August 2018 at 07:50
> To: Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>, Gavin Hu
> <gavin...@arm.com>, Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yi...@intel.com>, "Jacob, Jerin"
> <jerin.jacobkollanukka...@cavium.com>
> Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>, nd <n...@arm.com>, Ola Liljedahl
> <ola.liljed...@arm.com>, Steve Capper <steve.cap...@arm.com>
> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] kni: fix kni Rx fifo producer
> synchronization
>
>
> Agreed. Please go a head and make the changes. You need to make same change
> in kernel side also. And please use c11 ring (see rte_ring) mechanism so that
> it won't impact other platforms like intel. We need this change just for arm
> and ppc.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 10:29 AM
> To: Gavin Hu; Kokkilagadda, Kiran; Ferruh Yigit; Jacob, Jerin
> Cc: dev@dpdk.org; nd; Ola Liljedahl; Steve Capper
> Subject: RE: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] kni: fix kni Rx fifo producer
> synchronization
>
>
> External Email
>
> I agree with Gavin here. Store to fifo->write and fifo->read can get hoisted
> resulting in accessing invalid buffer array entries or over writing of the
> buffer array entries.
>
> IMO, we should solve this using c11 atomics. This will also help remove the
> use of ‘volatile’ from ‘rte_kni_fifo’ structure.
>
>
>
> If you want us to put together a patch with this idea, please let us know.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Honnappa
>
>
>
> From: Gavin Hu
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2018 2:31 PM
> To: Kokkilagadda, Kiran <kiran.kokkilaga...@cavium.com>; Ferruh Yigit
> <ferruh.yi...@intel.com>; Jacob, Jerin <jerin.jacobkollanukka...@cavium.com>
> Cc: dev@dpdk.org; Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>; nd
> <n...@arm.com>; Ola Liljedahl <ola.liljed...@arm.com>; Steve Capper
> <steve.cap...@arm.com>
> Subject: RE: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] kni: fix kni Rx fifo producer
> synchronization
>
>
>
> Assuming reader and writer may execute on different CPU's, this become
> standard multithreaded programming.
>
> We are concerned about that update the reader pointer too early(weak ordering
> may reorder it before reading from the slots), that means the slots are
> released and may immediately overwritten by the writer then you get “too new”
> data and get lost of the old data.
>
>
>
> From: Kokkilagadda, Kiran
> <kiran.kokkilaga...@cavium.com<mailto:kiran.kokkilaga...@cavium.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2018 6:44 PM
> To: Gavin Hu <gavin...@arm.com<mailto:gavin...@arm.com>>; Ferruh Yigit
> <ferruh.yi...@intel.com<mailto:ferruh.yi...@intel.com>>; Jacob, Jerin
> <jerin.jacobkollanukka...@cavium.com<mailto:jerin.jacobkollanukka...@cavium.com>>
> Cc: dev@dpdk.org<mailto:dev@dpdk.org>; Honnappa Nagarahalli
> <honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com<mailto:honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>>
> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] kni: fix kni Rx fifo producer
> synchronization
>
>
>
> In this instance there won't be any problem, as until the value of
> fifo->write changes, this loop won't get executed. As of now we didn't see
> any issue with it and for performance reasons, we don't want to keep read
> barrier.
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Gavin Hu <gavin...@arm.com<mailto:gavin...@arm.com>>
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 9:10 PM
> To: Ferruh Yigit; Kokkilagadda, Kiran; Jacob, Jerin
> Cc: dev@dpdk.org<mailto:dev@dpdk.org>; Honnappa Nagarahalli
> Subject: RE: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] kni: fix kni Rx fifo producer
> synchronization
>
>
>
> External Email
>
> This fix is not complete, kni_fifo_get requires a read fence also, otherwise
> it probably gets stale data on a weak ordering platform.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dev <dev-boun...@dpdk.org<mailto:dev-boun...@dpdk.org>> On Behalf Of
> > Ferruh Yigit
> > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 10:08 PM
> > To: Kiran Kumar
> > <kkokkilaga...@caviumnetworks.com<mailto:kkokkilaga...@caviumnetworks.com>>;
> > jerin.ja...@caviumnetworks.com<mailto:jerin.ja...@caviumnetworks.com>
> > Cc: dev@dpdk.org<mailto:dev@dpdk.org>
> > Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] kni: fix kni Rx fifo producer
> > synchronization
> >
> > On 8/16/2018 10:55 AM, Kiran Kumar wrote:
> > > With existing code in kni_fifo_put, rx_q values are not being updated
> > > before updating fifo_write. While reading rx_q in kni_net_rx_normal,
> > > This is causing the sync issue on other core. So adding a write
> > > barrier to make sure the values being synced before updating fifo_write.
> > >
> > > Fixes: 3fc5ca2f6352 ("kni: initial import")
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Kiran Kumar
> > > <kkokkilaga...@caviumnetworks.com<mailto:kkokkilaga...@caviumnetworks.com>>
> > > Acked-by: Jerin Jacob
> > > <jerin.ja...@caviumnetworks.com<mailto:jerin.ja...@caviumnetworks.com>>
> >
> > Acked-by: Ferruh Yigit
> > <ferruh.yi...@intel.com<mailto:ferruh.yi...@intel.com>>
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