> On Nov 4, 2014, at 5:27 AM, Neil Horman <nhorman at tuxdriver.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 04:52:48AM +0000, Wiles, Roger Keith wrote:
>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:42 PM, Neil Horman <nhorman at tuxdriver.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 03:26:50PM -0800, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 16:50:15 +0000
>>>> "Wiles, Roger Keith" <keith.wiles at windriver.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Neil Horman <nhorman at tuxdriver.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 02:25:51PM +0000, Wiles, Roger Keith wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 8:16 AM, Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson at 
>>>>>>>> intel.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 02:08:46PM +0000, Wiles, Roger Keith wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 4:41 AM, Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson at 
>>>>>>>>>> intel.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 04:28:28PM -0600, Keith Wiles wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Allow for a external parser to handle the command line if the
>>>>>>>>>>> command is not found and the developer has called the routine
>>>>>>>>>>> int cmdline_set_external_parser(struct cmdline * cl,
>>>>>>>>>>>                            cmdline_external_parser_t parser);
>>>>>>>>>>> function to set the function pointer.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The function for the external parser function should return 
>>>>>>>>>>> CMDLINE_PARSE_NOMATCH
>>>>>>>>>>> if not able to match the command requested or zero is handled.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Prototype of external routine:
>>>>>>>>>>> int (*cmdline_external_parser_t)(struct cmdline * cl, const char * 
>>>>>>>>>>> buy);
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Keith Wiles <keith.wiles at windriver.com>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Keith,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> what is the expected use case for this? Is it for embedding other 
>>>>>>>>>> programming languages alongside the existing DPDK command-line or 
>>>>>>>>>> some other purpose? [Perhaps the use case could be called out in the 
>>>>>>>>>> patch description]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Bruce,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I guess the external parser could be used for other programming 
>>>>>>>>> languages, but the case I was looking at was to provide a default 
>>>>>>>>> escape from the command line parser to allow my application to handle 
>>>>>>>>> the commands not understood by the parser. Now that you point it out 
>>>>>>>>> I could use something like ?%<line-of-script-code>? to execute a 
>>>>>>>>> single line of script code, which is a good idea (thanks).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> One case I am looking at is when you want to execute a command and do 
>>>>>>>>> not want to add the support into the commands.c file for every 
>>>>>>>>> possible command. Take the case where you have a bunch of scripts 
>>>>>>>>> (Lua) in a directory much like a bin directory. Then you could type 
>>>>>>>>> foo.lua or foo on the command line and execute the foo.lua having the 
>>>>>>>>> application detect you want to load and run a Lua script after it has 
>>>>>>>>> finished parsing for the builtin commands.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> For Pktgen I had to add a command called ?run <filename> <args?>? to 
>>>>>>>>> support running a script with arguments. I also needed to add a 
>>>>>>>>> argvlist type to cmdline to not error out on that command and split 
>>>>>>>>> up the args into a argv list like format. (Maybe I need to submit 
>>>>>>>>> that code??) It seemed more straight forward to just pass the command 
>>>>>>>>> line to the application to run the command. I understand that seems 
>>>>>>>>> like a minor point, but it does make it easier to use and to support 
>>>>>>>>> the features I want to support in my PoC.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Using this method you can just type the name instead of something 
>>>>>>>>> like ?run foo.lua? or just ?run foo? and let the code figure out what 
>>>>>>>>> to run. I have more plans for this features as well and have not 
>>>>>>>>> finished the basic PoC yet. If you want a peek I can show you what I 
>>>>>>>>> am working on currently.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Does this help and do I really need to add all of this to the commit 
>>>>>>>>> message :-)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the explanation. However, if you are looking to have the 
>>>>>>>> application handle a bunch of commands itself, why does it need to use 
>>>>>>>> the commandline library at all? Why not just have the app handle all 
>>>>>>>> the commands instead of some of them?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I guess that would be reasonable, but then I would have to add support 
>>>>>>> for all of the command line parsing being done in the cmdline code. 
>>>>>>> Think of this as a default case for the parser and to me that makes 
>>>>>>> more sense then just doing my own command line design. In the cmdline 
>>>>>>> code you guys provided is a lot of features like history, control key 
>>>>>>> support, arg parsing (IP, MAC) and many others. I would rather not have 
>>>>>>> to write that code myself.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The default case is the same behavior today, with giving a no match 
>>>>>>> error unless they add the external parser.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It seems alot simpler than that to me.  Looking at the test 
>>>>>> applications, the
>>>>>> command line parser expects the application to create an array of
>>>>>> cmdline_parse_ctx_t structures to support new option parsing.  If your 
>>>>>> goal is
>>>>>> to support other languages, it seems to make more sense to just use 
>>>>>> foreign
>>>>>> language bindings to merge your coding language support with the DPDK
>>>>>> (ostensibly you will already have to do that if you want to use other 
>>>>>> parts of
>>>>>> the DPDK).
>>>>> Hi Neil,
>>>>> 
>>>>> A true language binding like Lua or one of those other languages :-) you 
>>>>> are correct to believe binding directly using ?C? code is the right 
>>>>> solution . In Pktgen I use Lua as the direct language binding and extend 
>>>>> Lua with specific Pktgen functions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What I am doing here is to add a default case to cmdline code, which just 
>>>>> happens to allow me to parse the cmdline in the application. Being able 
>>>>> to execute say a line of script code is not really the requirement IMO. 
>>>>> Being able to extend the cmdline code with a default case is a good 
>>>>> feature and allows the developer to extend cmdline for some simple cases. 
>>>>> The cmdline code is kind of simple, but does require a fair amount of 
>>>>> structures, code and understanding to write a complex extendable command 
>>>>> line interface. It does seem hard to find a clean, simple and usable 
>>>>> embedded command line code base is not very easy to locate. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Adding a true language binding really requires using code to extend the 
>>>>> language as I did with Lua and Pktgen. It could have been done with any 
>>>>> language I just picked Lua, but the patch does not really add support for 
>>>>> a language other then giving some support for someone to handle the 
>>>>> no_match case.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The use case for this feature is not just for Pktgen, but another 
>>>>> solution I hope everyone will find useful when I get it more complete.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> ++Keith
>>>>> 
>>>>> PS. on a different topic I was thinking about suggesting and writing a 
>>>>> patch to add Lua with DPDK specific binding and extensions. (also 
>>>>> allowing those `other` languages too :-) Being able to use a scripting 
>>>>> language and be able to call DPDK API?s could be useful. How useful not 
>>>>> sure at this time. (If you want to talk about this topic please start a 
>>>>> new thread).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am I missing something?
>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> /Bruce
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Keith Wiles, Principal Technologist with CTO office, Wind River mobile 
>>>>>>> 972-213-5533
>>>>> 
>>>>> Keith Wiles, Principal Technologist with CTO office, Wind River mobile 
>>>>> 972-213-5533
>>>> 
>>>> I wouldn't invest a lot of sweat in the command line parser.
>>>> The one in the DPDK is "good enough" for what it needs to do, but really 
>>>> isn't
>>>> very complete and flexible. Seems like the kind of thing that doesn't 
>>>> really even
>>>> need to be in DPDK. Better off being part of some other library.
>>>> 
>>> Well, something needs to be there to parse the libraries' common options, 
>>> though
>>> I agree, making eal_cmdline just a registration frontend to getopt or
>>> getopt_long would be sufficient.
>> 
>> Until we have a better command line solution, which I think would be great, 
>> but in the mean time I would like to see this patch applied if no one has a 
>> technical reason or better suggestion.
>> 
>> I think this patch is fairly simple and I think we need a way to handle the 
>> default case. If someone could please review the patch, that would be great.
>> 
> I have an objection, specifically, that its not necessecary.  You can already
> accomplish what you want to do by adding structures to the context array in 
> the
> cmdline structure.  I realize its not as easy as just adding an external 
> parser
> function, but its the designed way to add options.  This does little more than
> add addition API surface without any real need.
> Neil

Neil

I do not agree with your comments as I see it to be a small extension to 
cmdline to handle the case where I will have to possibly add a huge number of 
commands/code to the cmdline structures. Using this method I am able to add 
these very simple commands without having to add more code for this use case.

Lets say you have a directory on the disk that has possibly a 100 little 
commands, without this minor change I would have to write 100 little 
structures/code for cmdline to handle each case. Another option is to write a 
single command to handle these commands. I used this method in Pktgen and could 
do ?run foo <args>? style commands, but it would be much simpler for the user 
to just type ?foo <args>? instead.

Having a default handler for commands just makes a lot of sense to me and I do 
not buy the 'added API surface without any real need' statement.

Thanks
++Keith
> 
> 
>> ++Keith 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Neil
>>> 
>> 
>> Keith Wiles, Principal Technologist with CTO office, Wind River mobile 
>> 972-213-5533

Keith Wiles, Principal Technologist with CTO office, Wind River mobile 
972-213-5533

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