Hey guys,

I would like to initiate (or better to say, resume) the discussion regarding 
CXF 3.5.x and beyond. 
The 3.5.x has been  in the making for quite a while but has not seen any 
releases yet. As far as 
I know, we have only pending upgrade to Apache Karaf 4.3.3 (on SNAPSHOT now) so 
be ready to meet 
JDK 17 LTS next month. I think this is a good opportunity to release 3.5.0 but 
certainly looking 
for ideas and opinions here. Importantly, I think for 3.5.x the JDK-8 should be 
supported as the minimal 
required JDK version (just an opinion since JDK-8 is still very widely used). 

On the other side, many libraries (Jetty, wss4j, ...) are bumping the baseline 
to JDK-11. The work
@Colm is doing to update to OpenSaml 4.x [1] is a good argument to have the 
JDK-11+ release line. Should
we have a dedicated 3.6.x or 4.x.x branch(es) for that? 

Last but not least, Jakarta 9.0+ support. Last year we briefly talked about it 
[2], at this moment it
looks like having dedicated release line (4.x/5.x) with Jakarta artifacts is 
beneficial in long term. 
Large chunk [3] of work has been already done in this direction. The Spring 6 
milestones with Jakarta 
support are expected to land in Q4/2021 [4] but I am not sure what plans Apache 
Karaf team has, @Freeman
do you have any insights?

To summarize briefly:
 - release 3.5.0 in preparation to JDK-17 LTS, keeping JDK-8 as baseline
 - move master to 3.6.x (4.x?) with JDK-11 as the minimal required JDK version 
(Jetty 10, ...)
 - branch off 5.x (4.x?) to continue the work on supporting Jakarta 9.0+, with 
JDK-11 as the minimal 
   required JDK version (Jetty 11, ...)
 
I think it is very clear that maintaining JavaEE + JDK8 / JavaEE + JDK11 / 
Jakarta + JDK11 would consume
much more time from the team, but I am not sure we have other options if we aim 
to evolve and keep CXF 
up to date. Any thought, ideas, comments, suggestions guys? 

Thank you!

[1] https://github.com/apache/cxf/tree/opensaml4
[2] 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/cxf-dev/202012.mbox/%3c1503263798.20201226124...@gmail.com%3E
[3] https://github.com/apache/cxf/pull/737
[4] 
https://github.com/spring-projects/spring-framework/issues/25354#issuecomment-875915960

Best Regards,
    Andriy Redko  

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