My biggest concern would be the “jar explosion” that would occur if you add a 
-blueprint and -spring jar for each of the jars that contains those.   We 
already have a ton of jars, not sure adding another 30-40 is the best idea. 

Several years ago, I also started experimenting a bit:
https://github.com/apache/cxf/tree/split-spring 
<https://github.com/apache/cxf/tree/split-spring>

But didn’t really pursue it much further.




> On Sep 23, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Christian Schneider <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> On 23.09.2016 14:03, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
>> IMHO the most important thing is to preserve the CXF stability.
>> 
>> FYI, CommomUtil helpers which can use Spring are heavily used - some of them 
>> in JAX-WS and a lot in JAX-RS.
>> 
>> For example, JAX-RS SpringBoot starter does depend a lot on the ClassScanner 
>> Spring, and JAX-RS runtime depends in various places on ClassHelper to help 
>> with dealing with Spring proxified beans. The code which refers to these 
>> helpers can not afford to start referring to Spring variants because of 
>> course not all CXF users are Spring users.
>> 
>> One needs to be aware that Spring (and now SpringBoot) is very much a major 
>> platform for many CXF users.
> We should definitely keep the good support for spring that we currently have. 
> What I am not sure of is if we still need the pretty extensive xml namespaces 
> in the future. The modern spring platform is now almost completely annotation 
> based. So I can imagine that cxf 4 might drop xml namespaces in favor of 
> comprehensive annotation based spring support.
>> 
>> Personally I'd like see a very clear and concrete plan first:
>> - How to preserve the runtime code portability which depends on CommonUtil 
>> helpers such that it works as before in/out of Spring
> I am not yet at the stage where I have a concrete plan. My first attempt was 
> just to find out how deeply spring is wired into CXF. As it seems the 
> unwrapping of proxies seems to be the most problematic part. So one first 
> task is to find a good way to make this still work while having a separate 
> module for the spring support.
>> - How to keep CXF Spring user code which depends on Spring Namespace support 
>> (starting from cxf:bus and then for all other modules) operating.
> As a first step I would simply add the new cxf-core-spring jar to all modules 
> that define namespaces. That might then not provide the full advantage of the 
> separation but it should guarantee that all modules work as before. This 
> change should make sure that refreshs only happen to modules that provide 
> namespaces.
> As a second step we should then check if we can improve on that. This all of 
> course depends if we find a feasible solution and if the changes have the 
> desired effect.
> In any case I will make sure that we keep all problematic changes in a branch 
> so we can decide about them before they reach the master.
> 
> Christian
> 
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> 
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