Hi John, Can you share any more details on this?
Thanks, Sean ________________________________ From: Petersam, John Contractor <john.peter...@ssa.gov.INVALID> Sent: Monday, February 6, 2023 7:13 AM To: dev@ctakes.apache.org <dev@ctakes.apache.org> Subject: RE: Crash course in cTakes [EXTERNAL] * External Email - Caution * Hi Rik, I run mine on Java 19, so it can be done. But I have also updated dependencies and made code modifications to support it. Thanks, John -----Original Message----- From: Rick Coleman <rcole...@jilocasin.net> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2023 5:59 PM To: dev@ctakes.apache.org Subject: Re: Crash course in cTakes [EXTERNAL] Sean, Thanks for getting back to me in this. I was afraid that was what the answer was going to be. I appreciate you taking the time to fill in some of the gaps. If it's so dependent on Java 1.8, someone should probably remove the "or higher" on the download page. I look forward to getting this application up and running. Until then, rik. On 2/3/23 15:57, Finan, Sean wrote: > Hi Rick, > > Thank you for the questions and for reminding us that the documentation is > sparse, outdated and not very detailed. Everybody needs a prod now and then > to get things done. > > I hope that we can get a solid README and Wiki going on GitHub, as well as an > update to the primary website. It will take a lot of work and some > cooperation by committers and users alike. > > I have tried to address your questions inline below. > > Sean > > ________________________________ > From: Rick Coleman <rcole...@jilocasin.net> > Sent: Friday, February 3, 2023 3:14 PM > To: dev@ctakes.apache.org <dev@ctakes.apache.org> > Subject: Crash course in cTakes [EXTERNAL] > > * External Email - Caution * > > > Hello everyone, > > Can anyone point me to an exhaustive set of documentation regarding cTakes? > > * Not really. The wiki that you found is the most that there is. > * Most information is scattered across emails written on the dev and > user lists. You can search them here: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://apache.markmail.org/__;!!NZvER7FxgEiBAiR_!vSoolzbK8NAWQaElUhpa-gH234NiQTdDCQHd7Wms90IBgEnRv2N1Sbv0Ipgp5b8G1B-nT-X-qmQjr0EJnmRDSPTBdhQxQ9dh5cMCZLEk7w$ > > The main site feels like it was written by a marketing major, lots of > flash and catchiness, but little in the way of detailed documentation. > Even the User Install Guide and the Developer Install guide read like > what they are, install guides. > > For example: > Is cTakes the whole package, or just the front end? > > * ctakes is a clinical nlp platform (vague enough?). I would say > "whole package", but extendable. > * It is built on Apache UIMA and allows users to create pipelines of > various nlp and i/o components. > * It comes with many components that have been built for clinical nlp. > * It is extendable; UIMA components from other sources can be placed in > the pipelines. > * There are front-ends for some tasks, such as running a pipeline or > creating a custom dictionary. > > If it's just the front end, what's the back end? > > * I would say that each UIMA component is a bit of back-end, as is the > controller that actually runs the pipeline. > * As mentioned above, you can extend it with non-ctakes back-end > components . > > It mentions using my UMLS credentials, can you use a local copy of the > relevant UMLS data? If so how? > > * If you are compiling and running the source then ctakes will > automatically download a default dictionary. > * If you are running a packaged binary then you'll need to manually pull > down a dictionary. > * Previous to ctakes 5 downlaoding, unzipping and copying the dictionary > was a manual process. > * If you are using v5 then you can run bin/getUmlsDictionary and a > simple gui will do it for you. > * You can also create your own custom dictionary. > * The wiki has a page on the dictionary creator gui. > * There are instructions on youtube that start with first steps. > > Are the requirements listed, 1GB drive space, Oracle Java 1.8 the > minimum or the recommended? What about RAM or CPU? Is non-Oracle Java > acceptable? What about 1.17, the current LTS version? > >> 1GB disk > == Java 1.8 >> 2GB RAM (>= 4 recommended) >> = 64bit CPU > OpenJDK seems to be fine. > > Every java release past 8 is bad for ctakes. ctakes has a lot of > dependencies, many of which are old and rely on a java 8 feature here and > there. ctakes itself probably requires a java 8 special here and there, but > I honestly don't know. Unfortunately, ctakes needs to have a serious update > effort - maybe for v6. Part of the problem is actually its capabilities and > versatility - the availability of multiple available components and > workflows. A 'minor' change can require a dozen end-to-end tests in dev and > user environments on multiple platforms. Unit tests do not suffice. > > > So, does anyone know where I can find out this information? > > > Thanks. > > rik. > >
