The correct answer would be no.  Not in an out-of-the-box implementation of
cTAKES.    Leaving a trail of our usage of UMLS is one of the factors
contributing to its very existence. If it seemed as if no-one were using
these validation APIs at UMLS - it would give ammunition to the budget
cutters.

You can do more-or-less whatever you want with software, so it is an
ethical question as much as a technical one.

An implementation such as ours has to go to some extra lengths to obtain a
user's credentials because the cTakes service is buried inside a PHI
sensitive zone that has no cloud-facing ports.  But still, we do it.

Peter

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 2:13 PM Akram <as...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

>  Thanks Peter,
> Is there a way we can use cTAKES completely offline?
> I mean we can download whatever we need from UMLS and use it as datasource
> locally in our computers?
>
>
>
>     On Thursday, 24 September 2020, 02:02:15 pm GMT-7, Peter Abramowitsch <
> pabramowit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Hi All
>
> I managed to have a conversation with Patrick McLaughlin who's in charge of
> the Authentication changes at UMLS.  I have some updates for you which I
> think you will find reassuring.
>
> He's familiar with cTAKES but hasn't used it personally, nor was very
> familiar with the different ways it could be deployed and its
> authentication requirements.
>
> To boil the conversation down to a few key points:
>
> They want to get out of the business of forgotten password and username
> management. but they are still creating individual user accounts and
> accounts for content providers.
>
> There are two routes to authenticating and I think the far simpler one for
> traditional cTAKES users will be that of using API keys instead of an
> external Authentication service. Strangely enough, I had to ask Patrick
> about it since it is not mentioned on their recent emails to our
> community.    So I'll describe that approach first:
>
> API_KEY Method.
>
> Our individual user accounts do and will still have an API key created for
> them and you can authenticate with the API key instead of username-password
> to get an access token with a specific TTL. (a surrogate for yes/no
> authentication)  So cTAKES will need some relatively trivial changes to
> accept an API key in the usual places (EnvVar, System Property, or
> Piperfile) and then make the appropriate request with that key.
>
> I'm using the alternate authentication URL property so I can relay requests
> through a proxy authenticator, but it will forward API keys just as cTakes'
> new code should do.  So whoever makes these changes - please don't remove
> the modifiable system property
> * ctakes.umlsaddr    !!*
>
> What the UTS will want, though, is the domain name from which the API
> bearing Token request will come, so they can whitelist it.
>
> If you have no UMLS license yet, you will go to the UTS as usual to apply
> and from there, you will be given the choice of several external sources of
> identity verification.  Here's where external authentication will come into
> play (using Google Auth, Facebook, Login.gov etc):  Once you've passed that
> step, you'll get the user account and an API key.
>
> If you already have a UMLS license and are using the username password
> paradigm, when the cTAKES fix is out, go back to your UTS profile and find
> your API key.
>
> SECOND OPTION
> (after your license is updated or newly established with whitelist &
> callback info)
>
> If you are architecting an implementation where ad-hoc users authenticate
> for one-off interactions with cTakes through a website or directly with the
> UMLS metathesaurus via its APIs, the implementation will involve something
> more complicated.  You will need to implement a publicly visible web
> service or callback-link on your site.
>
> Your authentication request will go out, probably with an email address and
> will be forwarded by UTS to your authenticator of choice (whomever you
> specified when creating your license)
>
> Asynchronously, the UTS will call back on your registered URL which your
> application will be listening for to give you approval or rejection.  This
> would unblock access to cTAKES or the website behind which you've deployed
> it.
>
> So you see that this method is not really suitable for situations where
> cTAKES is used as a console app or a dedicated web-service, possibly
> situated deep within a protected PHI safe zone.  In this setting a
> Synchronous authentication approach using the API_KEY would be simpler from
> every angle.
>
> If I haven't been clear enough or you still have questions, call Patrick.
> He's very open to working with us
>
> Peter
>

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