My focus is rather on > helping out in translating the contribution from GATE/JAPE to UIMA/Ruta. > Thus, I concentrate on the existing functionality for now. >
Do we have a tracker; which ones remain? > > What is the final goal of the cTAKES comunity concerning clinical deid > components? Will both sandbox projects be merged, what about statistical > approaches? > Does cTAKES provide APIs/integration of any statistical approaches? > > @Azad: I am just curious on which data the rules exactly rely. I think > I'll find the information in the article. > I assume that the 521 docuemnts have been utilized to develop the rules > and the 269 documents to evaluate them. Did you correct the rules also > using the second set? I need to reread to article :-) > The entire training dataset was used: 521+269. Azad > > Am 10.03.2016 um 23:22 schrieb andy mcmurry: > > *** For cross-validation, you can evaluate de-identified notes data from > > i2b2 challenge** * > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ctakes/sandbox/ctakes-scrubber-deid/data/models/ > > > > *Methods for model generation of FeatureSet described here: * > > > > *Improved de-identification of physician notes through integrative > modeling > > of both public and private medical text* > > > http://bmcmedinformdecismak.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1472-6947-13-112 > > > > Major objective of that study was to help provide external examples to > > cross train / retrain other methods. > > > > hope this helps, > > --Andy > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Savova, Guergana < > > guergana.sav...@childrens.harvard.edu> wrote: > > > >> You can re-build the models that feed into MIST. I personally would not > >> use the default model that MIST comes with as it is not trained on > clinical > >> data. In our previous work we found that hand-annotating about 200 docs > for > >> PHI (representative of the sample you are going to run the models on) > >> results in building a pretty good model - in the 90's for p, r and f1. > >> However, even with that high performance, the institution that owns the > >> data might be still reluctant to share as it might pose a violation of > >> HIPAA through some potential PHI leaks. In cTAKES our approach has been > to > >> de-couple the de-identifcation from the NLP/information extraction. If a > >> user has the need for de-identified data, they could choose their > method -- > >> manual or otherwise -- and then process through cTAKES. Our focus is the > >> NLP/IE space, while de-identification is a blend of that plus policy.... > >> > >> --Guergana > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Azad Dehghan [mailto:azad.dehg...@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 4:19 PM > >> To: dev@ctakes.apache.org > >> Subject: RE: Combining Knowledge- and Data-driven Methods for > >> De-identification of Clinical Narratives > >> > >> Thanks Guergana. > >> > >>> Yes, the current release of cTAKES has a module for the temporal > >> expressions which includes dates. The normalizer for the temporal > >> expressions is Steven Bethard's timenorm code. > >> Great. > >> > >>> However, if you do de-identification of dates/temporal expressions, > >>> you > >> run the risk of creating incorrect timelines as many of the relative > >> temporal expressions (e.g. spring of this year, x-mas time, etc.) are > >> unlikely to be correctly shifted by any de-identification tool. > >> Indeed, a reason I have not included the dates component. > >> > >>> One de-identification tool is MIST -- > >> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mist-2Ddeid.sourceforge.net_&d=BQIFaQ&c=qS4goWBT7poplM69zy_3xhKwEW14JZMSdioCoppxeFU&r=SeLHlpmrGNnJ9mI2WCgf_wwQk9zL4aIrVmfBoSi-j0kfEcrO4yRGmRCJNAr-rCmP&m=FlURWGr18rKbgM76o8Hxoo1rbC2D2h-kk611lbKnPik&s=5awdXn2I-hRE0-161tqFDGgmYgQQviQg360uHI4fs2s&e= > >> . > >> I don't remember them doing well in the community held evaluation in > 2014. > >> Hence, cDeid :) > >>> Guergana Savova, PhD, FACMI > >>> Associate Professor > >>> PI Natural Language Processing Lab > >>> Boston Children's Hospital and Harvard Medical School > >>> 300 Longwood Avenue > >>> Mailstop: BCH3092 > >>> Enders 144.1 > >>> Boston, MA 02115 > >>> Tel: (617) 919-2972 > >>> Fax: (617) 730-0817 > >>> Harvard Scholar: > >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__scholar.harvard.ed > >>> u_guergana-5Fk-5Fsavova_biocv&d=BQIFaQ&c=qS4goWBT7poplM69zy_3xhKwEW14J > >>> ZMSdioCoppxeFU&r=SeLHlpmrGNnJ9mI2WCgf_wwQk9zL4aIrVmfBoSi-j0kfEcrO4yRGm > >>> RCJNAr-rCmP&m=FlURWGr18rKbgM76o8Hxoo1rbC2D2h-kk611lbKnPik&s=3taiTxFp55 > >>> iQUnc6A6Yemg-XzFQrRjo5QZRQeKHQ29c&e= > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Azad Dehghan [mailto:azad.dehg...@gmail.com] > >>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 3:42 PM > >>> To: dev@ctakes.apache.org > >>> Subject: Re: Combining Knowledge- and Data-driven Methods for > >> De-identification of Clinical Narratives > >>>> This means both training data folders? I have access to the data but > >>>> not > >>> to the challenge description. > >>> > >>> Yes. Is there any specific information that you are missing? > >>>> > >>>>> It would be good to incorporate/refactor (basically, GATE API needs > >>>>> to be replaced with UIMA API to generate annotation) the two-pass > >>>>> recognition method for cTAKES - which has a wider application on > >> longitudinal data. > >>>>> This method is used on-top of a number NERs. > >>>> > >>>> I'll take a look. > >>>> > >>>> I do not know how much time I can invest this month. Let's see how > >>>> many > >>> phases I can translate. > >>>> I added the rules for age. Are there jape rules for creating date > >>> annotations? > >>> No. I believe cTAKES has existing component(s) to capture dates? > >>> > >>>> After all rules are translated, they need some major refactoring. > >>>> Jape > >>> and Ruta are quite different in some aspects. > >>> Ok. > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Please let me know where I can help. I will be available again in > >> April. > >>>>> Cheers, > >>>>> Azad > >>>>> > >>>>> On 10 March 2016 at 13:13, Peter Klügl <peter.klu...@averbis.com> > >> wrote: > >>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> sorry, I was quite busy last month. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I added a new patch, which needs to be applied. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> No new rules, but it's possible now to evaluate everything against > >>>>>> the labelled data of the challenge. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> @Azad: > >>>>>> Which documents exactly did you use to develop the rules? > >>>>>> training-PHI-Gold-Set1, training-PHI-Gold-Set2 or > >>> testing-PHI-Gold-fixed? > >>>>>> Best, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Peter > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Am 03.02.2016 um 09:05 schrieb Peter Klügl: > >>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> the last patch fixed almost all problems. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I added another one that adds the csv file for the unit test and > >>> extends > >>>>>>> svn-ignore. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Peter > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Am 02.02.2016 um 09:16 schrieb Peter Klügl: > >>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I added another patch. I missed to manually add one test file to > >>> version > >>>>>>>> control, and there are still duplicate lines. > >>>>>>>> I hope this patch fixes the remaining problems. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Peter > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Am 29.01.2016 um 10:34 schrieb Peter Klügl: > >>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> the problems were caused by the svn client in my Eclipse. Sorry > >>>>>>>>> for > >>> the > >>>>>>>>> trouble, I should have looked more closely at the ciomplete > patch. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I attached a new patch created with commandline tools wich > >>>>>>>>> looks > >>>>>> correct > >>>>>>>>> now. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Pei, can you apply the new patch? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Peter > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Am 28.01.2016 um 15:57 schrieb Peter Klügl: > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks Pei. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I fear there was again a problem with the patch. All new files > >>>>>>>>>> are missing (and also the svn-ignore settings). > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Can you take a look? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Peter > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Am 28.01.2016 um 14:43 schrieb Pei Chen: > >>>>>>>>>>> patch applied. > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>> Pei > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 4:14 AM, Peter Klügl < > >>>>>> peter.klu...@averbis.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Pei, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> can you commit the recent patch for us? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> CTAKES-384-20160120.patch > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Peter > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Am 20.01.2016 um 19:35 schrieb Pei Chen: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I was swamped recently. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> But yeah, we can even create an extended type system to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> store > >>>>>> these items temporarily and add them into the main/core type > >>>>>> system afterwards. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> There was an existing item to upgrade UIMA, but agreed- it > >>>>>>>>>>>>> will > >>>>>> require much more testing. If it works, we can upgrade it in our > >>> sandbox > >>>>>> area or create a branch if necessary. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> —Pei > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Peter Klügl < > >>>>>> peter.klu...@averbis.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new patch is attached. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Pei: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are there suitable annotation types in the cTAKES type > >> system? > >>>>>> Some > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> project in cTAKES uses something like OntologyMatch... I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> map it > >>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> IdentifiedAnnotation right now, but there are many empty > >>>>>> features... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Azad: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the rules a bit, especially the capitalization > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> like I > >>>>>> use it > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in ruta normally. The wordlist are compiled to a trie by > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>> maven > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugin. I also added the two regexes for url and email. I > >>>>>> extended the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> regex for the url. I also changed the evaluation order of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> some > >>>>>> rules > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (with @). Feel free to add simple examples to examples.csv > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>> the unit > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tests. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know if you need more information about the changes. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you wanna have help with the other rule sets? Or should > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > >>>>>> split them up? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 18.01.2016 um 11:04 schrieb Peter Klügl: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great. I will integrate them in the project and in the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next > >>>>>> patch. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 18.01.2016 um 00:58 schrieb Azad Dehghan: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Three NERs translated and uploaded. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS. I will validate all NERs once we have them all > >> completed. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Azad > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 November 2015 at 10:37, Azad Dehghan < > >>>>>> azad.dehg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is on my todo list for Dec. as well. If there are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any > >>>>>> more volunteers > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for translating JAPE to RUTA, please get in touch. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Azad > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Nov 2015 09:55, "Peter Klügl" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <peter.klu...@averbis.com > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just wanted to mention that I haven't forgot about it. > >>>>>> Unfortunately, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is just no spare time right now. I hope I will > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be able > >>>>>> to provide > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the patches in December. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 06.11.2015 um 16:40 schrieb Pei Chen: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the ctakes-examples is probably a good > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> starting > >>>>>> point at least > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in terms of maven modules, etc. I think it would be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good > >>> if > >>>>>> we use > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uimaFIT style as primary approach to wiring > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components > >>>>>> together and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generate desc's as secondary... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the actual components that would be required > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>> probably best > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> left up to what is actually required for best > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performing > >>>>>> c-deid. The > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output would be interesting, I'm not sure if we > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should > >>> treat > >>>>>> this as > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an independent preprocessing component or part of a > >>> pipeline > >>>>>> (in which > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case, we may need to propose a change to the type > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system or > >>>>>> perhaps an > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alternative JCas view. You can probably open up that > >>>>>> discussion to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the dev group as you see fit.) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:38 AM, Peter Klügl < > >>>>>> peter.klu...@averbis.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a cTAKES project that may serve as an > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> example on > >>>>>> how the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cTAKES > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community develops or how a project should look like? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I learned that different people set up UIMA project > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a > >>>>>> quite > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manner and I do not what to get inspired by "some > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sort of > >>>>>> out-dated" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approach in the cTAKES repo. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are there restriction or preferences about the > >>> preprocessing > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that should be used and the kind of "output" of the > >>> project. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Components: On which components may the componetns > >> rely: > >>>>>> tokenizer, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parser, ... dict lookup? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "output": Should the project provide a pipeline or a > >>> single > >>>>>> AE? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More comments below. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 03.11.2015 um 16:54 schrieb Azad Dehghan: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who else plans to provide patches for it? Just to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoid > >>>>>> duplicate > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and to coordnate the efforts ... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to help with the translating JAPE to > >> RUTA. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can already go ahead with the UIMA Ruta > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Workbench if > >>>>>> you want, or > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait until I set up the project with ruta integration. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If any questions arise, just ask :-) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a development dataset which was utilized > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > >>> the > >>>>>> initial > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> development, and if yes, is it possible to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute it > >>>>>> too? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The data set is unfortunately not publicly > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available; > >>> i2b2 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A_ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _www.i2b2.org_NLP_DataSets_Main.php&d=BQIFaQ&c=qS4g > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oW > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BT7poplM69zy_3xhKwEW14JZMSdioCoppxeFU&r=SeLHlpmrGNn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J9 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mI2WCgf_wwQk9zL4aIrVmfBoSi-j0kfEcrO4yRGmRCJNAr-rCmP > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> &m > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =1Qpd4A2PgVD13w31PkkvmJf6I0PTCatCzgBgsnetPOg&s=aAEe > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OR yMtz7NCv-6EEgiABVY_Rf6zLnJghQh2DA_CKQ&e= > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> typically > >>>>>> releases the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sets 12 months after a given challenge; this is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done on > >>> an > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual basis > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and involve a Data Use Agreement. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, I will be able to conduct and coordinate > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>> validation. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, I'll investigate if we have already access to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>> dataset here. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My first step would be: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - set up a maven project > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - set up a development pipeline in a test (with > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cTAKES > >>>>>> components > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replacing the previous ANNIE preprocessing) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But one item that we need to review is the 3rd > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party > >>> libs > >>>>>> jars that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were included to ensure compatibility. I’ll be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure to > >>>>>> take a look > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that over the next few weeks. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> —Pei > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Pei - once ANNIE components are replaced there is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should > >>>>>> not be a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worry about the 3rd party libs. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, just a thought: we may want to create an > >>> independent > >>>>>> component > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Two Pass recognition (TwoPass.java) as this > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> method > >>>>>> have shown > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> useful > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for general NER on longitudinal data and surely > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> useful > >>>>>> independent > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deid component. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Azad > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >
