Yes, you're right about that Britt. I've been doing some annotations side by side with a treebank viewer and think I have a pretty good handle on the actual rules.
Basically, if a header or list identifier is followed by a period or a newline it is considered a sentence break and otherwise it is part of the sentence. e.g. 1. 20 mg flomax is two sentences, while: 1 - 20 mg flomax is one sentence. For headings: Allergies: Pt is allergic to aspirin. is one sentence, while: Allergies: Pt is allergic to aspirin. is two sentences. I'm planning to follow these guidelines. Tim On 07/28/2014 01:53 PM, britt fitch wrote: Thanks for the document, Tim. It seems to not be explicit about how to handle sentences occurring in lists. Are you still considering having the list number as outside of the sentence? Thanks Britt On Jul 25, 2014, at 7:09 AM, Miller, Timothy <timothy.mil...@childrens.harvard.edu><mailto:timothy.mil...@childrens.harvard.edu> wrote: Checking with Guergana and other colleagues here the advice is to have the sentence segmenter follow the treebank guidelines for sentence segmentation: http://clear.colorado.edu/compsem/documents/treebank_guidelines.pdf They are a bit light on detail but fortunately we have some treebanked data so I will use that for the training data and hopefully that will illuminate the tricky cases. Tim ________________________________________ From: Masanz, James J. [masanz.ja...@mayo.edu<mailto:masanz.ja...@mayo.edu>] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 4:39 PM To: 'dev@ctakes.apache.org<mailto:dev@ctakes.apache.org>' Subject: RE: question about sentence segmentation Sorry, I don't know if there was a reason. If you haven't checked with Guergana, you might want to ask her if she had a reason or if it was just the way it had been since that corpus was created. -----Original Message----- From: Miller, Timothy [mailto:timothy.mil...@childrens.harvard.edu] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 3:34 PM To: dev@ctakes.apache.org<mailto:dev@ctakes.apache.org> Subject: Re: question about sentence segmentation Thanks James, I was hoping to hear from you. I'll probably go ahead and change the data to split sentences between the list header and list element. You don't happen to know if there is any principled reason for the original style or whether it was just an arbitrary convention? The only thing I can think of is it might be hard to learn when to separate when there is no period after the list header (as in your examples). I think it's worth empirically checking on that point, but there might be other reasons that I'm not thinking of. Thanks Tim On 07/15/2014 03:27 PM, Masanz, James J. wrote: I don't have an opinion about how it should work. But I can verify that the clinical notes from Mayo Clinic that were used in the initial cTAKES sentence detector model had the list markers included in the first sentence, so, for example, the following would be two sentences, with each line a separate sentence. #1 Dilated esophagus. #2 Adenocarcinoma -- James -----Original Message----- From: Miller, Timothy [mailto:timothy.mil...@childrens.harvard.edu] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 6:04 AM To: dev@ctakes.apache.org<mailto:dev@ctakes.apache.org> Subject: RE: question about sentence segmentation My preference is to treat the list row number as outside of the sentence of interest. Or if it is necessary to be included in a sentence, have it be a sentence on its own. I can get behind this, I think it makes the issue a bit cleaner, to either have the list header as non-sentential or it's own sentence. As far as I can tell, this is not the current default behavior. At least in my runs the list header seems to get attached to the first following sentence, even in cases where it starts with a digit and a period ("3. Magnesium oxide 400 mg p.o. daily." is all one sentence). This behavior is probably strongly dependent on the annotations we give the sentence detector so as I'm prepping new training data I should have a default in mind. Does anyone have any objections to changing the sentence detector behavior to break list headers (things like "3." or "A " or "#5") as their own sentence? Tim ________________________________________ From: Britt Fitch [britt.fi...@gmail.com<mailto:britt.fi...@gmail.com>] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 8:29 AM To: dev@ctakes.apache.org<mailto:dev@ctakes.apache.org> Subject: Re: question about sentence segmentation My preference is to treat the list row number as outside of the sentence of interest. Or if it is necessary to be included in a sentence, have it be a sentence on its own. That won't be as straightforward as splitting on a period in cases like "2. Magnesium oxide 400 mg p.o. daily." In cases where there are more than 1 written sentence like your example in the original email, I'd prefer those were each a sentence rather than making the entire list line a single sentence. My feeling is that each line without terminating punctuation would be a single sentence and would exclude the list number. As an aside, I have encountered several issues with numbered lists being interpreted differently depending on 1. what number is included at the start for example: "2. Magnesium oxide 400 mg p.o. daily." vs "12. Magnesium oxide 400 mg p.o. daily." (This appears to be a chunking issue where the line starting with "12. Magnesium" is identified as starting with chunks [O, O, B-NP, B-NP, I-NP, B-NP, B-ADVP, O] even though the parts of speech appear to be correct) 2. whether there is a period at the end of a list for example: "4. CHF" vs "4. CHF." (This appears to be an issue with the chunker though which produces [O,O] in the first case and [B-VP, B-NP, O] in the second. Cheers, Britt On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Miller, Timothy < timothy.mil...@childrens.harvard.edu<mailto:timothy.mil...@childrens.harvard.edu>> wrote: Just curious about an edge case regarding headers/lists and wondering what people think the correct behavior and annotation are. In cases like this: #1 Dilated esophagus. #2 Adenocarcinoma my intuition is that each whole line is one sentence. But then there are cases where the number may be followed by multiple sentences on one line. 1. EGD as a complex procedure. If there is an abnormality, obtain biopsies. For this example my intuition is not as clear. Should there be a break after the "1." or should the first sentence be "1. EGD as a complex procedure."? Again, my intuition leans towards the latter but it seems a bit odd since the "1." kind of distributes over all the following sentences (i.e. it's like a paragraph descriptor.) Does the period after the 1 matter? The number of sentences after the list header? The fact that it's all on one line? Anything else? Tim
