Regarding Gradle: It would really be great if we could work around that "do
not distribute JARs" requirement. A good first step would be to see the
actual rule that forbids us to do this.

In the thread Darryl linked to there was a message exploring some possible
workarounds:

> Can we cheat and just have a script that uses curl/wget to retrieve Gradle
> from Apache's dist directory?
> Or, could we publish Gradle to npm and then have our thing depend on
> cordova-gradle ?


Both suggestions were left unaddressed as the discussion wandered off in
the direction of using Android Studio's bundled Gradle which IIRC we did
for a while before that stopped working.

But especially the second option seems quite feasible to me. Who says that
we cannot depend on some package that includes some form of binaries in its
distribution?

Am Mo., 8. Juni 2020 um 14:43 Uhr schrieb Tim Brust
<tim.br...@sinnerschrader.com.invalid>:

> +1 to Norman's statement. However, I believe the PR is not ready to be
> merged at the moment.
>
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 2:23 PM Norman Breau <nor...@normanbreau.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes, I had a misunderstanding from the Android documentation, I think
> > you can use any JDK version as long as it's at least version 8, because
> > in the gradle config, we declare that we want to compile for JDK 1.8 at
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/cordova-android/blob/a830145f36c8bba2ecdf7910f3699116d4c2f018/framework/build.gradle#L58-L61
> >
> > I would +1 easing the restriction of the JDK version check so that it
> > allows JDK 8+ so users don't need to have multiple java environments
> > installed just to use Cordova. JDK8 end of life is also at the end of
> > this year.
> >
> > On 2020-06-08 5:04 a.m., julio cesar sanchez wrote:
> > > There is a PR to allow any jdk version, we mistakenly thought java 8
> was
> > > required for android development, but looks like we were wrong.
> > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/cordova-android/pull/928
> > >
> > >
> > > El lunes, 8 de junio de 2020, Darryl Pogue <dar...@dpogue.ca>
> escribió:
> > >
> > >> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 7:49 PM Chris Brody <chris.br...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>> Another thing is that many build systems are now using a Gradle
> > wrapper,
> > >>> while Cordova still needs the Gradle tool to be installed in its
> search
> > >>> path. This may be related to a nasty-looking issue here:
> > >>> https://github.com/apache/cordova-android/issues/845
> > >> I seem to recall that we have to use the system-installed gradle to
> > >> generate our gradle wrapper, because the wrapper depends on a JAR file
> > >> and we're not allowed to distribute JAR files.
> > >>
> > >> Previous mailing list discussion regarding gradle wrapper
> distribution:
> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9fcaf3cd6b22e9cd6d09e17ff5956b
> > >> f661c3560be923f734dcc4450e%401403096149%40%3Cdev.cordova.apache.org
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