+1

~ Kerri

> On Jun 12, 2017, at 13:22, Trevor Brindle <tabrin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> +1 makes sense to me. Ensuring testability and not making heroic measures
> to continue support an old OS is a good reason to me.
> 
> TrevorBrindle
> Lead Hybrid Mobile Engineer
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> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> +1
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 8:38 AM, julio cesar sanchez <
>> jcesarmob...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Currently, Jellybean is 8.8%, so it's bellow the 10%. We can drop it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2017-06-12 17:22 GMT+02:00 Filip Maj <maj....@gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>>> Reviving this thread! Sorry for the late reply.
>>>> 
>>>> Regarding Trevor's question:
>>>>> Just for consideration however, what do we actually gain by dropping
>>>>> official support? Are there compat libraries or tests we can drop
>> after
>>>>> this?
>>>> 
>>>> From a testing/CI perspective, it becomes much more tenable to keep up
>>>> with pull requests and ensure changes are validated on the platforms
>>>> we support. We currently leverage Sauce Labs to run tests on emulators
>>>> on Android, and Sauce dropped support for all Android versions up to
>>>> and including 4.3 [1]. So, from a selfish perspective, as a cordova
>>>> dev, dropping 4.3 and below support makes _my_ life easier as I don't
>>>> have to manually test on earlier versions of Android.
>>>> 
>>>> Not sure if there are other, less-selfish reasons? Ping Simon + Joe.
>>>> 
>>>> Also, instead of letting this thread die a quiet death, may I suggest
>>>> that whatever decision is made here, we file as issues and chalk up
>>>> for the next cordova-android major release?
>>>> 
>>>> [1] https://wiki.saucelabs.com/display/DOCS/2017/03/30/EOL+
>>>> for+Android+4.0%2C+4.1%2C+4.2%2C+and+4.3+Automated+Mobile+App+Testing
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Trevor Brindle <tabrin...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I don't think it is unreasonable to drop support for an OS that had
>> its
>>>>> first release in July of 2012 (4.1 is almost 5 years old), especially
>>>>> considering the Cordova support policy for iOS.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Realistically, I think it's hard to justify support for before 4.4.
>>> Less
>>>>> than 10% of our customers are on 4.4 or earlier as a whole, and less
>>> than
>>>>> 10% of them actually use our apps regularly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just for consideration however, what do we actually gain by dropping
>>>>> official support? Are there compat libraries or tests we can drop
>> after
>>>>> this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:10 PM Simon MacDonald <
>>>> simon.macdon...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would happily drop support for anything less than API level 19 in
>> the
>>>>> next cordova-android major release.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Simon Mac Donald
>>>>> http://simonmacdonald.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Filip Maj <maj....@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> As much as I personally would like to do so, I wonder what the
>>>>>> reaction among consumers of cordova would be.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 1:39 AM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>> Our CI tests only test as far back as 4.4, so maybe I thought we
>>> were
>>>>>>> already there.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> @purplecabbage
>>>>>>> risingj.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Joe Bowser <bows...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hey
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Even though everything appears to be working on Jellybean, I
>> know a
>>>> lot
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> people have been wanting to throw it to the wayside.  Normally,
>> for
>>>> us
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> drop support for a platform, we have to wait unitl it goes below
>>> 10%,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> since Jellybean consists of three different API versions, and
>> since
>>>> two
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> those are below the 5% mark, I'm tempted to just toss it by the
>>>> wayside
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> set the minimum supported version of Android to 4.4.x, or API
>> level
>>>> 19.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> How do people feel about that.  I know in the past, people were
>>> super
>>>>>>>> passionate about supporting everything, but given that my Android
>>> 4.1
>>>>>>>> device is an old Nitobi device obtained before we even became
>>> Adobe,
>>>>>> and it
>>>>>>>> took five tries to get it to cooperate with adb, I'm really
>>> starting
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> think it's time we dropped Jellybean.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>> 
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