As little market share as windows has, it's hard to say how much effort
should be dedicated to additional testing for it. That said, if windows
testing is deemed necessary, I don't think we have much choice.

Just keep in mind the new windows support and new iOS driver are all appium
1.6, only released less than 60 days ago.

Perhaps a PoC project should be done for picking the appropriate
technology?

We are midway through a similar PoC at my place of work, I could volunteer
some time.

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 10:02 PM Filip Maj <maj....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Full disclosure: I contribute(d) to appium and worked for Sauce Labs,
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> so I am pretty biased ;)
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> Calabash, unfortunately, is iOS and Android only and does not support
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> Windows app, whereas Appium does via WinAppDriver [1].
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> I agree that appium, at least earlier on, was difficult to set up.
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> These days it's a simple `npm install`. I think appium has a much more
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> prolific committership to boot (MSFT contributes to it, for example).
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> The github network stats for each project back that up as well.
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> [1] https://github.com/microsoft/winappdriver
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> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Trevor Brindle <tabrin...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > In my experience with appium, it is troublesome to set up and maintain.
> We
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> > may investigate other frameworks that have similar functionality. I have
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> > had great luck with calabash.
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> >
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> >
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> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 5:30 PM julio cesar sanchez <
> jcesarmob...@gmail.com>
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> > wrote:
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> >> +1 to appium
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> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >> 2016-12-05 23:33 GMT+01:00 Filip Maj <maj....@gmail.com>:
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> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >> > Hi, it's me again!
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> >>
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> >> >
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> >>
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> >> > How I'd like to contribute to Cordova is to help automate the stuff
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> >>
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> >> > that saves committers having to take the manual time to do themselves.
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> >>
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> >> > I think a good first goal would be to help automate as much of
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> >>
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> >> > platform release testing as possible [1]. The autotests seem to be
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> >>
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> >> > handled relatively well by the CI system so far (if anyone feels this
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> >>
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> >> > is not true, please speak up! I want to hear about what works and what
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> >> > does not). The other part of mobile-spec-based platform release
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> >>
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> >> > testing is to "run the manual tests". After reading the
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> >>
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> >> > cordova-plugin-test-framework README [2], I thought this would be a
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> >> > good place to give plugin developers some better tools to deal with
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> >>
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> >> > testing complex UI interactions that the autotests can't handle on
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> >>
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> >> > their own. I was thinking appium [3] would be a good tool to
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> >> > complement that in this case. It gives us UI hooks into both web and
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> >> > natives contexts within hybrid applications, plus it also allows us to
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> >> > inject JavaScript into the web context. Wondering what others think?
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> >> > I could then foresee, with a little bit of scaffolding, a way to
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> >> > string plugins' appium tests together to fully automate the 'manual'
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> >> > testing of plugin tests during platform release testing.
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> >> >
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> >> > Let me know what y'all think!
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> >> > [1] https://github.com/apache/cordova-coho/blob/master/docs/
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> >> > platforms-release-process.md#what-to-test
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> >> > [2] https://github.com/apache/cordova-plugin-test-framework#
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> >> > defining-manual-tests
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> >> > [3] appium.io
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