> > > Based on [1] I think we're overthinking here... > > > > I might have missed something, but as far as I understood it all, the > only > > thing preventing new plugin versions from working on older > cordova-android > > based projects is the POSSIBLE FACT that these projects will still > > have android:targetSdkVersion="N < 23". It's not a sure bet, it's a > > possibility. My project, for example, will already > > have android:targetSdkVersion="23" when I upgrade to cordova-android 5.x > > with all the plugins upgraded too, so even if I only upgraded the plugins > > it would still work. > > > > > If you only upgrade the plugins, it won't compile because the new plugins > now call methods in Cordova 5.0.x to handle the permissions in > Marshmellow. We didn't remove any API calls, we just added new ones to > deal with the API changes on Android to deal with the permissions system > they're rolling out. That's why this major version exists at all, > otherwise you would be right, and this would be a non-issue.
That's why I mentioned [1], which you proved incomplete just now. They won't be compatible because Cordova-Android compiles against API 22, > and these plugins will require API 23 so that they can detect permissions > and support Marshmellow. The reason they won't be compatible is not only because the compilation target, but also because the new plugins need new methods from cordova-android@5. I then take my post back, it was the product of misinformation. I also hope we don't go the reflection way then :) 2015-09-23 18:36 GMT-03:00 Steven Gill <stevengil...@gmail.com>: > so plugins that require cordova-android 5.0 + should definitely be adding > an engine tag specifying that. > > We could look into some way for cordova-cli possibly fetching older > versions if cordova plugin add fails but I imagine this code being ugly and > easily breakable. > > it would be nice to start moving engine tag type stuff out of plugin.xml > and into package.json. We probably want to update our tools to consume that > info from package.json instead of plugin.xml. Something we should make a > proposal for to see how it would look. Adding that info to searching would > be very beneficial. This is for a separate discussion (possibly f2f) > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Joe Bowser <bows...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Frederico Galvão < > > frederico.gal...@pontoget.com.br> wrote: > > > > > Based on [1] I think we're overthinking here... > > > > > > I might have missed something, but as far as I understood it all, the > > only > > > thing preventing new plugin versions from working on older > > cordova-android > > > based projects is the POSSIBLE FACT that these projects will still > > > have android:targetSdkVersion="N < 23". It's not a sure bet, it's a > > > possibility. My project, for example, will already > > > have android:targetSdkVersion="23" when I upgrade to cordova-android > 5.x > > > with all the plugins upgraded too, so even if I only upgraded the > plugins > > > it would still work. > > > > > > > > If you only upgrade the plugins, it won't compile because the new plugins > > now call methods in Cordova 5.0.x to handle the permissions in > > Marshmellow. We didn't remove any API calls, we just added new ones to > > deal with the API changes on Android to deal with the permissions system > > they're rolling out. That's why this major version exists at all, > > otherwise you would be right, and this would be a non-issue. > > > > > > > It's common sense for android developers to bump the targetSdkVersion > to > > > the latest once a new one comes out, the android APIs are always > > backwards > > > compatible, even if it means for the google team to code migration or > > > compatibility code (which they have always done afaik). If an app > > developer > > > is upgrading his plugins on an existing app, there is no obvious reason > > for > > > him not to also bump the targetSdkVersion. An app developer will always > > > want to support the largest and newest devices, it's a larger audience > > for > > > them anyway. > > > > > > > Upgrading to 5.0 bumps this automatically. > > > > > > > With that said, I don't think any of the mentioned complexity is needed > > > (package.json metadata, plugman version tryouts, engine tags in > > plugin.xml > > > or reflection). We just need to add hooks to the plugins that check the > > > targetSdkVersions on plugin_install, and warn the user about this if > it's > > > bellow 23. > > > > > > > > It's needed for plugins that use permissions. Most plugins aren't > affected > > by this, such as plugins for ad networks. > > > > BTW: INTERNET permission isn't one that is prompted. You can't revoke an > > app's ability to go online. I think that's dumb, but whatever. > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > They won't be compatible because Cordova-Android compiles against API > > 22, > > > and these plugins will require API 23 so that they can detect > permissions > > > and support Marshmellow. > > > > > > 2015-09-23 15:33 GMT-03:00 Joe Bowser <bows...@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Joe Bowser <bows...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Homer, Tony < > tony.ho...@intel.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Joe- > > > > >> > > > > >> As far as I can tell, the API 23 calls are currently unguarded so > > > smores > > > > >> will only work on M Preview. > > > > >> I know your smores branch is a POC, but I was wondering about > > > backwards > > > > >> compatibility. > > > > >> Do you anticipate adding Build.VERSION.SDK_INT >= > > > Build.VERSION_CODES.M > > > > >> guard clauses for backwards compatibility? > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > This already exists in each of the plugins when they do the > > permissions > > > > > check, and smores works perfectly fine on Lollipop so far. Right > > now, > > > if > > > > > you aren't running M, you don't do the permissions check, and you > > don't > > > > > call the methods. I haven't tested it on earlier versions of > > Android, > > > > but > > > > > I expect it to work on Kitkat and Jellybean the same way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And yes, we can probably create a utility method, that said, most > > plugins > > > > aren't directly affected by this, only the ones that require extra > > > > permissions. It'd be good if we had an idea of what third party > > plugins > > > > people are actually using that would run afowl of this and see where > > they > > > > would fail. But I already have more than enough work currently, and > > > > adopting other people's plugins is not something I want to get in the > > > habit > > > > of doing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tony > > > > >> > > > > >> On 9/23/15, 1:56 PM, "Joe Bowser" <bows...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> >On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Carlos Santana < > > > csantan...@gmail.com> > > > > >> >wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> >> No need to major version change for the Plugins, the API of the > > > > didn't > > > > >> >> change. > > > > >> >> Web developer still uses the same JS API to use the plugin. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >I would do a major version bump on Geolocation. The API itself > > > didn't > > > > >> >change but the behaviour certainly did. On Marshmallow we have > to > > > add > > > > >> >this > > > > >> >extra shim that asks for permission, which means that there's now > > > code > > > > >> >attached to Android Geolocation that didn't exist before. All > the > > > > other > > > > >> >plugins should still be fine. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> >> Yes I did some thinking around the plugin search website. I > think > > > is > > > > a > > > > >> >>good > > > > >> >> topic for the F2F. > > > > >> >> Now that IBM is using Cordova Plugin more heavily to package > our > > > > mobile > > > > >> >> SDKs using Cordova Plugins, I think is beneficial to expose > more > > > info > > > > >> >>about > > > > >> >> the plugin including engine tags > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> I would not go and build our own backend and have our own > > registry > > > > with > > > > >> >> cordova metadata. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> I think the solution is to put the metadata of plugin.xml into > > > > >> >> package.json. We can show fast results in main search, but then > > > user > > > > >> can > > > > >> >> drill into the plugin details, and we can have a view with more > > > > >> >>information > > > > >> >> and allow the user to select a specific version like we have > > today > > > in > > > > >> >>our > > > > >> >> plugin website search using the cordova registry. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> The website can fetch the package.json and it will have the > > > > information > > > > >> >>to > > > > >> >> display to the user. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> So what I think we need to do is document and automate the > > > > information > > > > >> >>from > > > > >> >> plugin.xml including engine tags into the package.json. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> Today we have some sort of duplicate information between the > > > > "cordova" > > > > >> >>and > > > > >> >> "keywords", I think it would be a good time to clean it up and > > add > > > an > > > > >> >>array > > > > >> >> in cordova.engines > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 12:19 PM Nikhil Khandelwal > > > > >> >><nikhi...@microsoft.com > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > Merging threads. I was no aware of any security implications > of > > > > using > > > > >> >> > reflection - Perhaps if the reflection target can be > controlled > > > > >> >>through > > > > >> >> > external data. In any case, I understand your hesitation with > > use > > > > of > > > > >> >> > reflection. I would love to have longer discussions on the > F2F > > on > > > > >> what > > > > >> >> > approaches we could use to make this easier for Cordova > > > developers. > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > Joe: Could you add the appropriate engine tags in any case? > > > That's > > > > >> how > > > > >> >> > Cordova currently handles versioning between plugins & > > platforms. > > > > >> >>Also, > > > > >> >> > does this imply that the plugins should have a major version > > bump > > > > as > > > > >> >>it > > > > >> >> is > > > > >> >> > a breaking change? Please create the 5.x branches and if you > > > could > > > > >> >> submit a > > > > >> >> > PR - I had other minor code review comments on the diffs > below. > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > Carlos: I understand in the extreme case it can be a fairly > > > > >> >>complicated > > > > >> >> > implementation with lots of criteria to use to determine the > > > ideal > > > > >> >>plugin > > > > >> >> > that might work given a set of platforms. However, trying a > > > couple > > > > of > > > > >> >> > previous versions of the plugins might work 80% of the time > and > > > > that > > > > >> >> might > > > > >> >> > be good enough. This requires more thought as there are > quite a > > > few > > > > >> >> > scenarios here. > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > As for plugin search website helping you find the correct > > engine > > > > tags > > > > >> >>- I > > > > >> >> > like the idea. But this might requires us maintaining a > backend > > > for > > > > >> >> plugin > > > > >> >> > search as this is specified in plugin.xml (and not > > package.json - > > > > or > > > > >> >>did > > > > >> >> we > > > > >> >> > finally move this?). > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > Thanks, > > > > >> >> > Nikhil > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > -----Original Message----- > > > > >> >> > From: Carlos Santana [mailto:csantan...@gmail.com] > > > > >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 6:14 PM > > > > >> >> > To: dev@cordova.apache.org > > > > >> >> > Subject: Re: [Android] 5.0.x release branch? > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > +1 we should always use the engine tag to mark the minimum > > > > compatible > > > > >> >> > +version at least > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > -1 for cordova CLI to automagically to install an older > > version. > > > It > > > > >> >>will > > > > >> >> > be a pain to get this implemented right, we would need to > > > download > > > > >> all > > > > >> >> the > > > > >> >> > package.json for multiple versions of the plugin and pick the > > > > lowest > > > > >> >> common > > > > >> >> > denominator based on engine tags and remember that one plugin > > > > support > > > > >> >> > multiple engine tags across different platform versions and > > > > >> >>CLI/plugman. > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > This brings an interesting feature to implement In the plugin > > > > search > > > > >> >> > website, to display the engine tags for a specific plugin > > > version. > > > > >> >> Allowing > > > > >> >> > a developer to search for a compatible plugin for their > current > > > > app. > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > - Carlos > > > > >> >> > Sent from my iPhone > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > -----Original Message----- > > > > >> >> > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com] > > > > >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 6:17 PM > > > > >> >> > To: dev@cordova.apache.org > > > > >> >> > Subject: Re: [Android] 5.0.x release branch? > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > I'm completely against using reflection for this purpose. > > > Version > > > > >> >>codes > > > > >> >> > were invented for a reason and we don't have any mechanism in > > > place > > > > >> to > > > > >> >> unit > > > > >> >> > test any Android code (or any other native code on any of the > > > > >> >>platforms). > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > I will vote against any release that includes reflection for > > this > > > > >> >>purpose > > > > >> >> > since reflection has only brought us security issues and > > extreme > > > > >> >>WebView > > > > >> >> > breakage when used (Simon can tell you the tales of the HTC > > > > >> >>console.log > > > > >> >> > reflection code.). Reflection is a worst-case scenario tool > > like > > > > >> >>when a > > > > >> >> > method in WebView marked as deprecated completely disappears, > > not > > > > >> >> something > > > > >> >> > we should make a habit of using often. If we open the door > for > > > > this, > > > > >> >> we'll > > > > >> >> > get reflection creeping elsewhere, like the Plugins API. > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > Just say no to reflection. > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015, 5:57 PM Nikhil Khandelwal > > > > >> >><nikhi...@microsoft.com> > > > > >> >> > wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > Thanks, Joe for the detailed explanation. I understand why > > > we've > > > > >> >>taken > > > > >> >> > > this route. It's good that this is only a build failure. > One > > of > > > > the > > > > >> >> > > complaints we commonly hear from Cordova developers is that > > "I > > > > have > > > > >> >>a > > > > >> >> > > cordova project with a certain version of the platform, I > > need > > > to > > > > >> >>find > > > > >> >> > > the plugin that will work with it". Our CLI always defaults > > to > > > > add > > > > >> >>the > > > > >> >> > > latest released version of the plugin. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > After this breaking change, an existing cordova project > with > > > > >> >> > > cordova-android < 5.x, cannot build with the latest version > > of > > > > the > > > > >> >> > > following plugins: > > > > >> >> > > - camera > > > > >> >> > > - geolocation > > > > >> >> > > - contacts. > > > > >> >> > > These are some of the most popular plugins in cordova > plugin > > > > >> >>ecosystem > > > > >> >> > [1]. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > I propose that we should do our best to avoid disruptive > > > breaking > > > > >> >> > > changes here. Some ideas that come to mind: > > > > >> >> > > - As Joe mentioned below - reflection. It has the downsides > > > that > > > > >> Joe > > > > >> >> > > mentioned. No one likes to write code like this it but > > results > > > in > > > > >> >> > > least grief for Cordova users. Some pain here for plugin > > > > developers > > > > >> >> > > will simplify the experience for large number of corodva JS > > > > >> >> > > developers. I know we are doing some of this in cordova-ios > > [2] > > > > and > > > > >> >> > > would love to find ways on how to make this manageable and > > not > > > > >> super > > > > >> >> > ugly. > > > > >> >> > > - Add an '<engine name="cordova-android" version=">=5.0.0" > > /> > > > ' > > > > >> to > > > > >> >> > > the plugins - failure happens at plugin add in this > scenario. > > > > >> >> > > Cordova-lib could be more intelligent to detect this error > > and > > > > >> >>resort > > > > >> >> > > to using an older version of the plugin. The downside of > this > > > is > > > > >> >>that > > > > >> >> > > these projects cannot use the latest and greatest of these > > > > plugins. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > Thanks, > > > > >> >> > > Nikhil > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > [1] > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fcordov > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >>a.apache.org > > > > %2fuse-the-force-luke%2fplugins%2f%3fsortBy%3dDownloads&da > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >>ta=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com > > > > %7c5d1a100510734c0605f508d2c3b4b9 > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>c2%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=7apFzmhrtn%2bKulHrNn46 > > > > >> >> > > kkRG%2bZp3KarDUTf2y0i7P5I%3d > > > > >> >> > > [2] > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgithu > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >>b.com > > > > %2fapache%2fcordova-plugin-camera%2fblob%2fmaster%2fsrc%2fios%2fC > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >>DVCamera.m%23L44&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com > > > > %7c5d1a1005107 > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>34c0605f508d2c3b4b9c2%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=CkH > > > > >> >> > > zeZ9uQUfYPDdAGlO2PJ9xJz89sZI5bdMRSlQtrMo%3d > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > Thanks, > > > > >> >> > > Nikhil > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > -----Original Message----- > > > > >> >> > > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com] > > > > >> >> > > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:32 PM > > > > >> >> > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org > > > > >> >> > > Subject: Re: [Android] 5.0.x release branch? > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:43 PM Nikhil Khandelwal > > > > >> >> > > <nikhi...@microsoft.com> > > > > >> >> > > wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > Can you explain why latest plugins will not be compatible > > > with > > > > >> >>older > > > > >> >> > > > versions of Cordova? > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > They won't be compatible because Cordova-Android compiles > > > against > > > > >> >>API > > > > >> >> > > 22, and these plugins will require API 23 so that they can > > > detect > > > > >> >> > > permissions and support Marshmellow. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > Can this be avoided by any means? > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > Only with a lot of Java reflection, and I'd rather not > > subject > > > > >> >>plugin > > > > >> >> > > developers to that, or try to hide it under the hood in > some > > > > awful > > > > >> >> > > utility class that everyone will want to see die. I'm very > > > much > > > > a > > > > >> >>fan > > > > >> >> > > of if statements because they work, and they're easy to > read > > > and > > > > >> >> > > debug, unlike when bad things happen to things you reflect > > > into. > > > > >> >> > > Plugins that require API 23 will only work with > > Cordova-Android > > > > 5.0 > > > > >> >> > > and up. This only impacts five of our core plugins, but > any > > > > plugin > > > > >> >> > > that requires permissions from the Android Manifest will > have > > > to > > > > be > > > > >> >> > > updated. If we can avoid using advanced language tricks to > > > make > > > > >> the > > > > >> >> > APKs compatible, we should do that. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > When you mean they would not be compatible - will it result > > in > > > a > > > > >> >>build > > > > >> >> > > or > > > > >> >> > > > runtime failure? > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > This will be a build failure, since API 22 does not have > > these > > > > >> >> > > permissions, nor does it have the code required for API 23. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > For marshmallow, what is the guidance that we need to > issue > > > to > > > > >> the > > > > >> >> > > > larger Cordova plugin ecosystem? Joe you are ahead of the > > > curve > > > > >> >>here > > > > >> >> > > > compared to most other plugin developers - a blot post > > > > explaining > > > > >> >> > > > what are known gotchas would be great. I really hope we > can > > > use > > > > >> >>our > > > > >> >> > > > Cordova blog to communicate these changes actively to the > > > > plugin > > > > >> >> > ecosystem. > > > > >> >> > > > This mailing list only gets 400+ subscribers. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > There will be a blog post once 5.0 is released. We're not > > > > forcing > > > > >> >> > > people to upgrade to 5.0, and we will be supporting the 4.x > > > > branch > > > > >> >>for > > > > >> >> > > six months. This does mean we're stuck supporting 3.x, 4.x > > and > > > > 5.x > > > > >> >> > > for a brief window, but I have no control over when > > Marshmallow > > > > is > > > > >> >> > > released, only whether we want to support it or not. I > think > > > we > > > > >> do, > > > > >> >> but > > > > >> >> > I could be wrong. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > At least this should be easier than the jump from 3.x to > 4.x > > > for > > > > >> >>most > > > > >> >> > > people, but the alternative is that your plugin just > doesn't > > > work > > > > >> at > > > > >> >> > > all on Marshmallow. We need to at least give plugin > > developers > > > > >> this > > > > >> >> > > option, since it'll roll out on all the Nexus devices in > the > > > next > > > > >> >>two > > > > >> >> > > weeks, and we'll hear more about it. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > Can you re-base your cordova-android over the current > > master? > > > > >> It's > > > > >> >> > > > hard to see a diff in the current form: > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgit > > > > >> >> > > > hu > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >>b.com > > > %2fapache%2fcordova-android%2fcompare%2fmaster...infil00p%3asmo > > > > >> >> > > > re > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >>s&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com > > > %7cb451a04dccc64fabdb9608d2 > > > > >> >> > > > c2 > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > > >>edb23c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=j0bxz39itXdtylHJ > > > > >> >> > > > lv > > > > >> >> > > > PYoJpZqXMhFjyTV35I9X5Yxzs%3d > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > I had to do a merge commit to get this to happen (boo), but > > it > > > > >> >>should > > > > >> >> > > be mostly cleaned up now. It seems some style cleanup > > creeped > > > > into > > > > >> >> > > the most recent changes, but this should be a bit more > > > readable. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > -Nikhil > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > >> >> > > > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com] > > > > >> >> > > > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 2:14 PM > > > > >> >> > > > To: dev <dev@cordova.apache.org> > > > > >> >> > > > Subject: [Android] 5.0.x release branch? > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > Hey > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > In the next two weeks, Marshmallow will most likely > getting > > > > >> >>released > > > > >> >> > > > with the brand new Nexus 6P being released from Huawei. > > > Given > > > > >> >>that > > > > >> >> > > > most of the Nexus devices will be getting this release, > we > > > > should > > > > >> >> > > > probably release the 5.0.x branch of Android soon, and > get > > > the > > > > >> new > > > > >> >> > > plugins updated. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > It should be noted that the latest plugins will not be > > > > compatible > > > > >> >> > > > with older versions of Cordova, which is a big deal. > This > > is > > > > due > > > > >> >>to > > > > >> >> > > > the use of various compatibility checks to make sure they > > > > support > > > > >> >> > > > Marshmallow and older versions of Android. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > So, if everyone can look over the smores branches of my > > > GitHub > > > > >> >> > > > before I create the 5.0.x branch and pull the changes > into > > > it, > > > > >> >>that > > > > >> >> > > > would be > > > > >> >> > > awesome. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgit > > > > >> >> > > > hu > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >>b.com > > > %2finfil00p%2fcordova-android%2ftree%2fsmores&data=01%7c01%7cni > > > > >> >> > > > kh > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >>ilkh%40microsoft.com > > > %7c1785194b1f82494fc2d908d2c2c99f36%7c72f988bf86 > > > > >> >> > > > f1 > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > > >>41af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=%2fPKmL8KTsz5dnC3A75yMatXLQUnfK0Nv07% > > > > >> >> > > > 2b > > > > >> >> > > > ve4PVcCE%3d > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgit > > > > >> >> > > > hu > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >>b.com > > > %2finfil00p%2fcordova-plugin-geolocation%2ftree%2fsmores&data=0 > > > > >> >> > > > 1% > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >>7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com > > > %7c1785194b1f82494fc2d908d2c2c99f36%7 > > > > >> >> > > > c7 > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > > >>2f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=o6cLXM4f3kpUGCTlIv65ft8lKv > > > > >> >> > > > 6p > > > > >> >> > > > c5qbeY%2bdUxiP4bc%3d > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgit > > > > >> >> > > > hu > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >>b.com > > > %2finfil00p%2fcordova-plugin-camera%2ftree%2fsmores&data=01%7c0 > > > > >> >> > > > 1% > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >>7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com > > > %7c1785194b1f82494fc2d908d2c2c99f36%7c72f9 > > > > >> >> > > > 88 > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > > >>bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=kNsHIv6Uw2ITcT1ABmNq1JCmPTSigCG > > > > >> >> > > > Rb > > > > >> >> > > > 4zWC8maWpE%3d > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgit > > > > >> >> > > > hu > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >>b.com > > > %2finfil00p%2fcordova-plugin-contacts%2ftree%2fsmores&data=01%7 > > > > >> >> > > > c0 > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >>1%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com > > > %7c1785194b1f82494fc2d908d2c2c99f36%7c72 > > > > >> >> > > > f9 > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > > >>88bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=rZ%2f1AALPAtUwgSXyOL1uk1b0Y%2 > > > > >> >> > > > fe > > > > >> >> > > > EmqLOdU%2fwua2TbLU%3d > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > Work on audio is still outstanding, BUT for some reason > > Audio > > > > >> >>broke > > > > >> >> > > > recently on both Lollipop and Marshmallow. I didn't test > > it > > > > out > > > > >> >>on > > > > >> >> > > > KitKat or Jellybean yet, but I'm wondering whether we > > should > > > > keep > > > > >> >> > > > maintaining this or support the standard HTML5 audio and > > deal > > > > >> with > > > > >> >> > > > the asset issue somehow (which isn't straight forward). > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > I hopefully want to get a 5.0.x branch happening this > week > > if > > > > we > > > > >> >>can. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > What do people think? > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > Joe > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > *Frederico Galvão* > > > > > > Diretor de Tecnologia > > > > > > PontoGet Inovação Web > > > > > > > > > ( +55(62) 8131-5720 > > > > > > * www.pontoget.com.br <http://www.pontoget.com/> > > > > > > -- *Frederico Galvão* Diretor de Tecnologia PontoGet Inovação Web ( +55(62) 8131-5720 * www.pontoget.com.br <http://www.pontoget.com/>