Ray: you have commit rights. =)

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Raymond Camden <raymondcam...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Do we have a rough idea of how soon we will see the improvements on the NPM
> side? If it is 1-2 weeks, then I don't think it is a huge big deal, but if
> longer than that I think we have a problem with our uses. Right now there
> are *no* docs if they follow the links from docs.cordova.io. We all know
> where the docs can be found, and I blogged on it too, but for new users
> this is not ideal, and is pretty critical I think.
>
> Query - if the issue now is that the Markdown used by core plugins doesn't
> match the Markdown supported by npm, instead of waiting for npm to fix it,
> couldn't we just do the manual grunt work ourselves? I'd happily try to hit
> one of the files myself if so.
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Kerri Shotts <kerrisho...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Jörg,
> >
> > I disagree: the move to NPM was a good move. It might not be perfect yet
> > (far from it), but NPM is apparently moving forward with making search
> and
> > such easy. The description is an issue, yes, but that’s also being worked
> > out (and only applies to core plugins — third party plugins should be
> just
> > fine). Furthermore, it means that Cordova is no longer responsible for
> > maintaining a repository, which quickly becomes nontrivial when you have
> a
> > lot of people hitting it. NPM has far more resources in this regard than
> > does Cordova.
> >
> > That said, I’m also all for implementing a plugin page like Gulp, Yeoman,
> > etc. do, even if NPM gets better searching and the like, simply because,
> as
> > you say, it gives an overview that can lead to inspiration. I prefer
> using
> > Gulp’s list or Yeoman’s list over NPM’s site, but I’m also glad that NPM
> is
> > being used to manage the packages. Nearly everything else I’m doing is on
> > NPM now anyway, so it works out well for my workflow that Cordova’s
> plugins
> > are now too. (Never mind that the platforms and the CLI have been there
> for
> > some time.)
> >
> > This is completely separate from your issue with “good plugins”. NPM or
> > Cordova’s registry will make no difference to that — you’re relying upon
> > the skills and goodwill of third party developers to make plugins for
> you,
> > and they will all be of varying quality with varying documentation.
> That’s
> > a problem with Gulp, Yeoman, and every other tool that allows plugins. As
> > to verification with versions and platforms, that’s always going to be up
> > to the plugin owner, not the repository. I don’t really see any way
> around
> > that as it would always be hit or miss with third party plugins.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 30, 2015 at 4:49:08 PM, Joerg Holz (h...@hamburg.de) wrote:
> >
> > I’m a cordova developer.
> >
> > The idea to move the plugins to npm was a very bad one. No professional
> > description, no professional searching.
> >
> > From a developer view, there is a need to have an overview off all
> plugins
> > - just for inspiration There is a need to have a filter for platforms,
> the
> > maintainer, last update, … and the most important and complicated one: Is
> > the plugin checked, checked for platform, checked for version?
> >
> >
> > Have you ever tried to bring a three wheel selector in a cordova
> > application? That is a great job. Sorry for posting a screenshot, but
> this
> > simple wheeler took me one week for working on iOS, Android and Windows.
> >
> > I tried every plugin, every modification of every plugin, I split the
> > platforms … in the end I used mobiscroll and rewrote it for my needs.
> Just
> > for selecting a timespan.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cordova is great, the most important job for the future is: Let give the
> > people the power of cordova by good plugins.
> >
> >
> > Jörg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> --
> ===========================================================================
> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
>
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