We would be mandating its support, we have plenty of issues in Jira,
and this solves none of them.
... and minified code? Why? How can I evaluate it?

My mantra is and will remain "Plugins are everything, and everything
is a plugin"
What is the inconvenience in having a dependency on a promise plugin?
I don't see the downside, and I think it would be perfect for those
who want to use it.

Personally I think we should be pushing the browserify functionality
in cordova-js, and ripping stuff out, not adding it.


> On Dec 5, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Max Woghiren <m...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> I think it's nice to remove that obstacle from in front of plugin
> developers who want to use promises.  If we're going to suggest that people
> drop the polyfill in themselves, I don't see the harm in just having it
> there, especially if we don't mandate its use.
>
> Going forward, many/most APIs will use promises; it might get a little
> unwieldy to have a whole bunch of plugins depend on a promise plugin.
>
> The bottom line, for me, is that this doesn't force anyone to use promises;
> it's just easy and there for those who want it.
>
>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Nice, but please don't add this.
>> Anyone who wants or needs this can do what you did, and if I start seeing
>> promise code throughout Cordova.js I may run.
>>
>> We should be looking to get rid of Cordova.js entirely, not add more deps.
>>
>> Why not a promise plugin?
>>
>> Fyi: promises invoke my fight or flight response, and I have only found
>> them useful for blocking contribution. That said, they already exist in
>> windows8.1 as part of winjs.
>>
>>
>> Sent from mobile
>>
>>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 8:40 AM, Max Woghiren <m...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've created a topic branch called "promise"
>>> <
>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cordova-js.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/promise
>>>
>>> to cordova-js.  It has a commit that adds this ES6 promise polyfill
>>> <https://github.com/jakearchibald/es6-promise> (minified) to cordova.js
>> and
>>> a simple test to ensure it's found.
>>>
>>> That's literally all it is right now—please take a look, though.  Shall
>> we
>>> move forward on this?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Bryan Higgins <br...@bryanhiggins.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> BB10 does have a native secure element API. I may be able to dig up some
>>>> code which bridges this to JavaScript.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Axel Nennker <ignisvul...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-7310 to track this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-08-13 22:57 GMT+02:00 Axel Nennker <ignisvul...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good to know. Thanks.
>>>>>> Am 13.08.2014 20:56 schrieb "Josh Soref" <jso...@blackberry.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Axel Nennker wrote:
>>>>>>>> I am interested to implement the secure element API.
>>>>>>>> Mozilla is currently implementing it with our help for FFOS but I
>>>> want
>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> for Android too. Blackberry shouldn't be that difficult using
>> JSR177.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BlackBerry classic (which is built around Java) isn't supported by
>>>>> Cordova
>>>>>>> and hasn't been for a few releases.
>>>>>>> BlackBerry 10 is built around QNX.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not making a statement about implementability re BB10 (just that
>>>>> Java
>>>>>>> is irrelevant),
>> https://github.com/blackberry/Cascades-Community-Samples/tree/master/NfcToo
>>>>>>> l
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is probably where someone would go to start...
>>
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