Joe - what non-polish items are left for Android? If you're feeling like
you have too much to do this week, maybe you can delegate some tasks?


On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> wrote:

> I think what you're saying Andrew is true under the assumption that
> plugins are ONLY consumed via the JS api. I'm not sure whether that
> assumption is correct in all cases.
>
> In any case, clarifying this point (dependency "scope" we could call it,
> perhaps?) seems like a good idea.
>
> On 7/15/13 12:14 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <agri...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> >-1 to shims. A plugin's java package name shouldn't be considered a part
> >of
> >its API. That's why there is a mapping in the config.xml.
> >
> >Shouldn't have to change any require() statements, or any JS at all. Those
> >use plugin IDs, not java namespaces.
> >
> >Replace-all on the package statement at the top of the file, and change
> >the
> >reference in plugin.xml. I'd put this change in the "polish" category.
> >That's what we should be doing now, no?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >
> >> +1 wait until 3.1.
> >>
> >> +1 add shims for less breakage
> >>
> >> Also worth pointing out that we'll need to add this to the deprecation
> >> list on the wiki
> >>
> >> On 7/15/13 11:30 AM, "Simon MacDonald" <simon.macdon...@gmail.com>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >> >The reason things broke back then was we didn't leave in shims to point
> >> >anyone compiling against com.phonegap.api to org.apache.cordova.api.
> >>That
> >> >was quickly corrected.
> >> >
> >> >I agree with the package name change but with 3.0 shipping this
> >>week(?).
> >> >It
> >> >should probably wait until the next version.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Simon Mac Donald
> >> >http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> No. You are proposing an API change. A package is most certainly a
> >> >> part of the API! When we moved from `com.phonegap` to `org.apache`
> >> >> there was a huge outcry b/c it broke all existing community plugins.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm completely open to changing stuff for 3.0 but, again, what
> >> >> specifically are you proposing we change?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Anis KADRI <anis.ka...@gmail.com>
> >> >>wrote:
> >> >> > I agree. The only downside I see is that it will be hard to
> >>dissociate
> >> >> core
> >> >> > plugins from other but I don't think it's really that important.
> >>Also
> >> >> > because it's not a giant change it could happen for 3.0.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Max Woghiren <m...@chromium.org>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> I'm not proposing any API changes in this email; example (1) does
> >> >> mention
> >> >> >> the relocation of FileHelper.java, but that's more to illustrate
> >>the
> >> >> >> benefits of repackaging the plugins.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I would think the plugin package change should happen *for* 3.0,
> >> >>before
> >> >> >> people actually start using the plugins all bundled in one
> >>package.
> >> >>  It's
> >> >> >> not a giant change.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > I think all of this makes good sense but will have to land
> >>sometime
> >> >> >> > post 3.0 as that we're pretty much in the final stretch now
> >>anyhow.
> >> >> >> > Which APIs are you specifically proposing we change?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Max Woghiren
> >><m...@chromium.org>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > > On Android, all Cordova plugins are in the package
> >> >> >> > org.apache.cordova.core.
> >> >> >> > >  It makes sense to put each plugin into its own package.
> >>Aside
> >> >>from
> >> >> >> > 3.0's
> >> >> >> > > conceptual shift into "plugins as completely individual
> >>entities"
> >> >> and
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> > > fact that plugins aren't really "core", here's some rationale:
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >    1. If two plugins have a file with the same name, we'll
> >>avoid
> >> >> >> > >    collisions.  For instance, core Cordova has
> >>FileHelper.java.
> >> >>  This
> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > >    wrong place for it in 3.0 and we'd like to move it to the
> >> >>plugins
> >> >> >> > that use
> >> >> >> > >    it (removing unused methods in each plugin's version).
> >> >>However,
> >> >> >> this
> >> >> >> > will
> >> >> >> > >    lead to a collision in apps that use two of these plugins,
> >> >>since
> >> >> >> > they'll
> >> >> >> > >    both be in the same package.
> >> >> >> > >    2. All plugin files will be separated into their packages
> >>in
> >> >>your
> >> >> >> IDE.
> >> >> >> > >     This makes working on an individual plugin easier‹you can
> >>see
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> > >    associated files at a glance.  If I'm working on a plugin
> >>with
> >> >> >> > multiple
> >> >> >> > >    files, I shouldn't have to hunt for related files to ensure
> >> >>I'm
> >> >> not
> >> >> >> > missing
> >> >> >> > >    anything.
> >> >> >> > >    3. Since our plugins will be used as starting points for
> >> >> third-party
> >> >> >> > >    plugins, we won't accidentally encourage plugin developers
> >>to
> >> >>use
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> > same
> >> >> >> > >    namespace.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > I would propose something like
> >> >> org.apache.cordova.plugin.<plugin_name>.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

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