Hey, Nick, I know there hasn't been much discussion of this. I want to 
encourage you to create a start at the content in the Github repo - 
https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups - and outline what we need to 
do to get there, and get a project or two onboard to start the discussion. As I 
said in Denver, we are all ComDev, but we have fallen into the trap of waiting 
for someone else to give permission.

So, you have *my* permission, for whatever that’s worth. (It’s worth exactly as 
much as the paper on which this email is written, but still …)

I *love* this idea, and see a number of places where it would be valuable in 
getting my employer (and others) to invest in “layer 2” projects rather than 
just focusing on layer 1 and getting surprised with that second layer goes to 
the attic.

—Rich

> On Oct 10, 2024, at 5:48 PM, Nick Burch <n...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All
> 
> I'd like to propose a new Working Group. I'm not certain the name is right, 
> but I can't think of anything better... Help needed on that!
> 
> For helping match Apache Projects who'd like new contributors, with Companies 
> who indirectly depend on them.
> 
> The aim would be to co-ordinate, provide best practice, and signpost.
> 
> It'd mostly be for small to medium ASF Projects who don't have a lot of 
> corporate involvement at the moment, who are key dependencies of some of our 
> bigger projects. It would help with getting them to the attention of bigger 
> Companies who use + contribute to the bigger projects, who don't realise who 
> in their supply chain underneath needs help. Then with any luck, assist in 
> some mentoring of people from those companies when they spend some of their 
> work time contributing to the dependency projects.
> 
> With increasing interest in SBOM (software build of materials), it would 
> hopefully help turn OSPO-like questions such as "I wonder if any dependencies 
> of Apache Awesome need help, but how would I know?" into "I've got a recent 
> graduate with a day-a-week of spare time, let's get them helping with Apache 
> Problematic!".
> 
> 
> If ComDev likes the idea, I'm happy to lead the working group, and give it
> a try with one of the projects I'm involved in. I've already roped in
> one other mentor from that project to help.
> 
> Do also need help with the name!
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Nick
> 
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