Hi Rich For ComDev, we are trying to help on the foundation level by providing the infrastructure or framework for the people to join us, and we also need to help the project PMC members do their community-building work. As an OSPOer from ByteDance, I'm doing similar work in the daytime. I learned a lot from the ASF projects and incubator, but I needed help to share all I knew with my colleagues because there were too many details for them to experience. So, I want to join the workgroup to gain more use cases and hands-on experience by contributing my efforts.
Please count me in, and I'm looking forward to working with you :) Willem Jiang Twitter: willemjiang Weibo: 姜宁willem On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 11:53 PM Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote: > > Hey, friends, > > I’m recovering from FOSDEM, and going through my notes. I would like to > propose a somewhat unformed idea that I would like to pursue for the next > year or so - the idea of forming working groups here in ComDev, to pursue > different tasks. > > The reasoning for this is that, while I have eleventy million things that I > want to accomplish under the umbrella of of ComDev, I have a tendency to just > go do stuff myself, because building consensus is *hard*. That leads, > consistently, to three outcomes: > > • The stuff doesn’t actually get done, because my list is long > • Nobody else does it either, because that’s Rich’s project > • I get super frustrated that nobody is helping, even though I created > that situation myself, and know that I created it. > > This is hugely unproductive, and I would like to see if we can take a step > towards making it easier for people to participate in narrowly defined ways > that don’t seem quite as daunting as our current way of operating. > > A working group would have a topic (“Website” is the first one that I’m > likely to propose), a defined scope of work, and regular check-ins where > progress is assessed, and narrowly defined action items can be volunteered > for. > > I love the way Kubernetes tackles this (see > https://github.com/kubernetes/community for some of that) but we tend to > believe, here at Apache, that this is too heavy on the structure side. I have > come to think, over the past few months, that we need more structure, because > our “just go jump in and do stuff!!” approach is hugely intimidating to > beginners, and is no better than “figure it out yourself, I’m too busy” in > terms of trying to engage new contributors. > > Now, I know that this email is very fluffy and philosophical. I’ll be > proposing a specific WG later this week, as soon as soon as I can write it > up, and asking for folks to participate. > > More, and more rambling, thoughts on this topic, here: > https://drbacchus.com/the-many-hats-of-a-maintainer/ - if you’re interested. > > — > Rich Bowen > rbo...@rcbowen.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
