rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote on 11/9/23 11:13 AM:
On Thu, 2023-11-09 at 10:45 -0500, rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote:
I'm looking at https://community.apache.org/speakers/slides.html and
I
have to admit, I hate it. I would like to rearrange it by topic,
rather
than as a list of names that 99% of our audience won't recognize.

My question is, do you think that folks will be offended if I remove
their names as the primary headers on this page? (Authors can,
obviously, still be attributed next to the various links.)

Rearrange away. 10 years ago I had the same thought and was equally scared at reordering anything. Today I agree: it needs to be organized by general topic, and old versions of slides or things that are no longer useful should be removed.


Stepping back a bit ... I suppose the question I would ask about this
page is, what is the *goal* of the page?

One good goal would be "a place to find a selection reviewed and high quality list of slide decks / presentations about common ASF topics". We can never be complete; but we could provide a useful overview of some key talks about ASF concepts for those people who like learning from slides or presentations. Bonus points for ones where we can include video/audio; I think this is one of the few places that might get some newcomers to watch.

We (Rich in particular!) have been working on updating a lot of plain and straightforward text explanations of basic concepts. But I think it would be useful (with work to do cleanup here!) to also have a page that lists useful presentations too.

...snip...
Having 73 variations of "The Apache Way" is confusing and frustrating.
Meanwhile, our attempts to collaborate on one canonical version have
resulted in
https://training.apache.org/presentations/comdev/apache-intro/ which I
think is what we *should* be promoting.

Um, isn't that really a "state of the feather" talk? If we want to give an overview of the ASF; great. If we want to showcase the behaviors that make up "the Apache Way", then I'd suggest starting here, and be sure to read speaker notes, where I explicitly try to include the "why":

https://shaneslides.com/2023/10/The-ASF-Way/

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- Shane
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  The Apache Software Foundation


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