Hi Rich Thanks for sharing. It's a great initiative. I'm sharing your concerns. As discussed yesterday, I think it's important for the mentors to educate/emphasize on committer/PPMC meaning and what should be the "bar". As we know some projects have committership bar pretty high (I don't like this, personally I would rather recommend the committer ship bar should be fairly low, whereas the PMC membership bar should be fairly high), to avoid frustration and keep motivation high, I would suggest to these projects to send thank/encouragement message to the contributors. It's a pity we are potentially losing contributors just because we are not able to say thank and encourage them. Some projects (like Apache Beam) send this kind of encouragement message, and I like this.
Regards JB On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 3:47 PM <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote: > > Hi, folks, > > As discussed various times on Slack, I am planning to create some > concrete, practical advice to our project communities about how to grow > their developer communities. I've put a bullet list here - > https://community.apache.org/communitybuilding/ - and will be > developing that over the coming year (I hope). > > I have become more than a little concerned about trends that I'm seeing > across the Foundation: Super-high committer bars with no real > justification; Ignoring contributors, who then eventually go away in > frustration; Off-list discussions that are then never discussed in the > view of the community; Committer/PMC elections influenced by company > affiliation/role rather than by public discussion. I am hoping that we > can address some of these by education, and by having "official" pages > that we can point to when projects are learning how to be ASF > projects. > > Yes, some of this happens in the Incubator. My concern is post- > incubator, when the decision-makers on the project arrives post- > incubator, and so don't benefit from that experience. A second- > generation problem, you might say. > > Anyways, as always, I welcome and appreciate your participation in > writing this stuff, and in organizing it. > > Thanks. > > --Rich > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
