Ayush Saxena wrote on 7/30/23 2:49 PM:
Hi Shane,
Thanx for the work, Read it & it is really very helpful!!!
Yay! Someone actually read it!
Just two minor doubts or confusion:
First,
Chairs are responsible for sharing any Board feedback with your PMC
Doesn't the feedback come directly to the PMC & anyone from the PMC can answer?
Context: There was an email from Rich to all dev lists [1] which read:
```
Every PMC member can, and should, respond when the Board sends email
to your private list. You should not wait for the PMC Chair to
respond. The Board views the entire PMC as responsible for the
project, not just one member.
```
Both are true. The whole PMC should feel empowered to help oversee the
project, including answering any board questions. But the board holds
the chair personally responsible for making sure board questions are
answered. Otherwise, we sometimes get the case where the committee of
many people each assume someone else is handling it, and questions never
get answered.
In particular, the board will sometimes replace the chair when a
project's reports or answers aren't sufficient. That's generally either
a sign that "Hey, your PMC *really* needs to shape up your projects",
and the board tells the PMC to pick a new chair who's more active (this
sometimes happens when the chair changes jobs or goes away).
Second,
While any PMC member can handle some PMC updates, in some cases only the Chair
may have permissions to make roster updates.
This sounds a little bit incomplete, What are some of those cases? Can
we link that as well. Most of the things any member can handle via
Whimsy - apache id creation AFAIK
Both are true. The purpose of this specific bit of content is to only
have the minimal required/recommended setup steps for becoming a new
Chair. Everything else - like what those cases are - should be
documented on the existing /dev/pmc.html page.
Does that make sense?
--
- Shane
ComDev PMC
The Apache Software Foundation
-Ayush
[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xyfpw41m65wrk3ftds4jtvyzjoxhtx70
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 at 00:04, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
I plan to update the email and how-to information we provide to new PMC
members. Please comment or make any factual corrections on the wiki:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/PMC+Chair+Onboarding+Change+Proposal
I'll be working with M&P to see where this fits on the a.o/dev tree.
--
- Shane
ComDev PMC
The Apache Software Foundation
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