I think this would be really great. I'm not a big fan of the [I] and [D] topics, though. I think I'd rather see [ISSUE] and [DISCUSSION], but either way, the ability to group emails is a big improvement. I'd also prefer to always include [GH] as a topic tag, so for example, [GH][ISSUE], so if people don't redirect them to another list, I can filter them out more easily. The reason for that is that I will still prefer to manage my notification subscriptions directly with GitHub, and prefer to suppress those on the lists by default.
On Fri, Jun 30, 2023, 03:50 Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> wrote: > Hi all, > > So, we have made it possible to “integrate” GitHub PRs, Issues and now > even Discussions by having infra auto-generate emails. > However, is the default setting for these just completely useless (in my > opinion). > > Without taking action currently there are only the following options: > > * A project just redirects the emails to another lists (commits@ or > notifications@ or whatever) > * A project gets a totally human-unreadable dev-list. > > As I see my role as a director in actually having a look at all of our > mailinglists this has become more and more painful over time. > But it got me thinking: If I’m having problems being able to see what a > project is up to – so will others. > > Some of the projects will have received many comments from me over the > past few months, as I’m trying to make dev-lists usable again. > Infra did add the ability to customize the default templates for the > subjects of auto-generated emails. And last month a PR of mine got merged, > that also allowed the customization of GitHub Discussions. > https://community.apache.org/contributors/mailing-lists.html#configuring-the-subject-lines-of-the-emails-being-sent > > I had many discussions with folks at infra about changing the defaults, > but generally met opposition. The general argument was, that there would be > bots that automatically consume these emails and these would be confused if > we changed the defaults. > > However, I think at the ASF we should be optimizing for people and not for > bots. Right now we have many projects where following the list is very > difficult and therefore we’re losing a big part of our transparency. > > I’m bringing this here as I think Comdev is where such discussions should > be had. > > So in general, I would like to change the defaults used by the GitHub > tooling to the ones I proposed in > https://community.apache.org/contributors/mailing-lists.html#configuring-the-subject-lines-of-the-emails-being-sent > . Quite a number of projects have adopted these settings: > Like StreamPipes: > https://lists.apache.org/list?d...@streampipes.apache.org:lte=4M > > What do you folks think? > > Chris > >
