big +1 to host the new letter draft to the wiki so every member can
add some news on that.


Willem Jiang

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On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 4:08 AM Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 12:46 PM Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ok, looks like we have three volunteers - Josh Fisher, Dave Fisher, and
> > Andrew Wetmore. So I don't feel like I'm doing this alone, which is
> > good.
> >
> > What we need to do still is:
> >
> > 1) Pitch this to the membership to determine whether this should land
> > on members@ or members-notify@
> > 2) Write sample newsletter: https://hackmd.io/0eeIQ7wDQnKr-LAgN6QqLA
> > 3) Figure out intake tooling (could just be a Google Form) for getting
> > content in
> > 4) Figure out our schedule/deadlines to ensure that we get this out in
> > a predictable cadence.
> >
> > I'm going to draft a proposal to send to members@ (probably won't
> > happen today) and run it back past this thread, unless someone beats me
> > to it.
>
> I'm a big fan of Cunninham's law:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cunningham%27s_Law
>
> Accordingly, I've taken the sample newsletter and posted it here:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ASFP/Member+Moment+-+April+2022
>
> I've changed March to April.  Added a mention of the June members
> meeting.  Changed the link to the ASF board meeting to the April
> meeting.  Added a link to the whimsy page that tracks members watch.
>
> The advantage of the "ASFP" wiki is that it is member private and all
> ASF members have update access.
>
> Unless there is a strong objection or better proposal the content of
> that page as it exists on April 5th will be sent to
> members-notify,subject to approval by Joe Brockmeier.
>
> - Sam Ruby
>
> > --Rich
> >
> > On Thu, 2022-03-10 at 10:00 -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
> > > Problem: Members (and, more generally, committers) are less engaged
> > > with
> > > the larger Foundation than at any point in our history. Meanwhile,
> > > the
> > > mechanisms for getting more engaged (eg, the members mailing list)
> > > are a
> > > firehose of unrelated content that is very frustrating to the casual
> > > participant - even those who desire a deeper engagement - and, in
> > > practice, are completely off-putting. Committers, meanwhile, have no
> > > real avenue, outside of their project, for further engagement.
> > >
> > > I've been struggling with ways to address this for years, and they
> > > all
> > > tend to founder on the rocks of "People should just be doing X!"
> > > which,
> > > in each case, is true, but also dismissive and ultimately unhelpful.
> > >
> > > I would like to propose that we are more proactive about reaching out
> > > to
> > > our community in tiny, consumable bites, that hint at a larger feast
> > > that they're missing out on.
> > >
> > > Here's my proposal, but I cannot (and will not) tackle this alone,
> > > because that guarantees failure, which guaranteed less participation
> > > the
> > > next time we suggest something like this.
> > >
> > > Proposal/Brainstorming doc: https://hackmd.io/JaLaGy56T8qT3ODABLVswA
> > >
> > > It's an intentionally simple idea - a minimum viable idea, one might
> > > say.
> > >
> > > I want to know who's going to help make it a reality. Not
> > > particularly
> > > interested in "that's a great idea", as much as "I will help make it
> > > happen."
> > >
> > > This will involve engagement with Events, M&P, and Board, at a
> > > minimum,
> > > but over time we'd hopefully engage everyone at the Foundation in
> > > content creation. But, even then, I want to keep this tiny and
> > > consumable - content that you can absorb in 2-5 minutes, always with
> > > a
> > > "to get more engaged ..." call to action aspect to it.
> > >
> > > Come help me develop community.
> > >
> > > --Rich
> >
> >
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