Infra discussed this at our last team meeting. Currently the way Slack
invites work via s.apache.org/slack-invite sends out an invite to become
a full member of the-asf.slack.com. You can read a bit more about this
at https://infra.apache.org/slack.html. The issue with that is members
(Slack Members NOT ASF Members) then cost money for the ASF, which will
be hard to track and forecast if every project starts using the-asf
workspace as a conference meet-up area. There's not an official way to
invite someone as a Single Channel Guest to Slack without their email
address. There's no URL they can visit to get an invite. There are
products out there that use a deprecated Slack API, but they aren't well
maintained and Slack can turn off the API whenever they want. So as of
this writing, we're recommending against using the-asf.slack.com for
mass conference invites.
We tried a workaround of sharing a channel with apachecon.slack.com,
however you can't share a channel from a paid Slack instance to a free
instance.
I'm just throwing out ideas, but if you had a list of email addresses
for attendees, you could bulk invite everyone as a Single Channel Guest
(they'd just have access to #beam). Then they get the added bonus of
being apart of the official Slack instance, can talk in the #beam
channel as needed and if they become a committer to Beam then they could
be "upgraded" to a full member account. Again, I'm just throwing it out
there as no one has ever really talked about the process/workflow of a
large group being dumped into Slack.
-Chris T.
#asfinfra
On 7/18/20 8:01 AM, Matthias Baetens wrote:
Thanks for bringing this to the ComDev mailing list, Austin. As part
of the Beam Summit org team, I am in strong favour of making this part
of the ASF Slack with the goal of growing the Beam community there and
expose people to the ASF overall, over splintering the community over
different Slack channels - this with the assumption in mind that it is
ok from an infrastructure POV. As community events grow (and hopefully
budget with it), I'd even propose we try and share burden of cost in
that direction in the future.
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 at 15:49, Austin Bennett
<whatwouldausti...@gmail.com <mailto:whatwouldausti...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks, Julian,
Ultimately, my question comes down to: is it OK to point people
interested
in events for specific (in this case Beam) events to the communication
platform used by the wider asf community. I figure it is ideal to
expand
the overall Apache tent/community. Though there are certainly
tradeoffs.
Unless needed, the question of which platform for the foundation
to use
seems a separate discussion.
Cheers,
Austin
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 9:03 AM Julian Foad <julianf...@apache.org
<mailto:julianf...@apache.org>> wrote:
> On behalf of FOSS fans everywhere: please seriously consider using
> [Matrix], the Open federated standard system. It's perfect for this
> sort of community, with bridges to Slack and IRC and many other
systems.
> In the last two years Matrix has leapt ahead of other
contenders like
> XMPP and is becoming the Open system of choice adopted by
organisations
> from Mozilla to universities and governments.
>
> It's a great platform for integrating the chat side, and even the
> presentation side through Jitsi, of online events. The matrix
devs do
> it and wrote a blog post describing how:
> https://matrix.org/docs/guides/running-online-events
>
> Before any of us risks pushing another FOSS community into the
> proprietary silo trap, let's pause and consider how we all would
in fact
> be paying for it if it's "free as in beer". I've been watching this
> space since five years ago when the FOSS alternatives were weak,
and now
> I'm really excited to see that, with the overwhelming global
need for
> such a thing, Matrix has grown strong and is accelerating rapidly.
>
> I would strongly encourage the ASF membership to deploy their
own Matrix
> server ASAP as it's the perfect fit for this sort of
organization. I
> run a personal Matrix server and benefit from modern multi-device
> single-app access to all my IRC messaging (via a public bridge),
all my
> WhatsApp messaging (via a private bridge), some private notes like
> diaries, as well as federated native Matrix messaging.
>
> I can give more detailed advice and put you in touch with specific
> contacts.
>
> - Julian
>
>
> See:
>
> * https://matrix.org -- for an introduction to Matrix
>
> * https://matrix.org/docs/guides/running-online-events -- see above
>
> * https://element.io/blog/welcome-to-element/ -- for an
introduction to
> the top company/brand of Matrix services and apps (a bit like
how Redhat
> is to Linux)
>
> * https://sifted.eu/articles/element-germany-deal/ -- news about big
> government deployments of Matrix
>
>
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