On 04/09/2019 17:12, John Andrunas wrote:
> * Does the committers group really just contain all committers?
> the committers group in confluence is from LDAP so it should only
> contain ASF members

No. It contains all committers which is a larger set than all members.

> * Do we have enough experience to be able to say we can trust all of
> the people in this group to not spam confluence?

Yes.

> * Are there any potential side effects of allowing all committers to
> add and edit comdev pages that I haven't thought of and that we should
> be aware of?
> Confluence keeps versions of all edits, and deleted pages can be
> recovered (though you didn't mention delete permissions), so if
> someone vandalized a page an earlier version could be recovered.

A committer isn;t going to do that.

> Other than someone causing additional work to recover/remove spam I
> wouldn't expect anything unexpected (except maybe the Spanish
> Inquisition, no one ever expects that).  There may be specific pages
> you want to add additional restrictions on though.

I doubt it. Unless it is something that needs to be PMC private which is
unlikely.

Mark


> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 8:22 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I'd like us to use the comdev confluence in order to help organize the 
>> hackathon for ApacheCon Europe 2019.  I'd like people participating in the 
>> hackathon to be able to enter their own projects.
>>
>> However a problem with this approach occurred to me: if I have to enter each 
>> interested user in the permissions table in confluence, it's not really 
>> self-organizing any more.
>>
>> I had a look at the confluence permissions table though, and one potential 
>> solution occurred to me:  Perhaps I can enter the committers group and give 
>> them permissions to add pages and comments.  I already experimentally added 
>> the committers group to the permissions table (and discovered I couldn't 
>> figure out how to delete them again).
>>
>> So here come my questions:
>> * Does the committers group really just contain all committers?
>> * Do we have enough experience to be able to say we can trust all of the 
>> people in this group to not spam confluence?
>> * Are there any potential side effects of allowing all committers to add and 
>> edit comdev pages that I haven't thought of and that we should be aware of?
>>
>> If those questions have the answers I hope they have, then I'll come back 
>> here, and ask the comdev PMC if there are any objections to allowing 
>> committers edit access to the comdev wiki.  Depending on the answers, we may 
>> also wish to consider giving all committers access to only certain parts of 
>> the comdev space.  Let's see how the discussion goes.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Myrle
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