On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 9:20 AM Joan Touzet <woh...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hey y'all, > > On 2019-07-17 7:53, Jim Jagielski wrote: > >> On Jul 17, 2019, at 2:56 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < > bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 1:11 AM Dave Fisher <wave4d...@comcast.net> > wrote: > >>> ...I’d like to see the Apache Way described like Euclidean Geometry.... > >> > >> I have no clue what this would look like but I'd love to see a blog > >> post of yours describing that vision. > >> > > +1 > > This was where I was aiming with my original post on board@ (which many > of you may not be able to see). > > I mentioned I often refer to Shane's summary because it's simple, > concise, and includes the why as well as the what. But I'm aware that > it's just one viewpoint - the website makes that perfectly clear, too. > > It's been said to me that a lot of The Apache Way can't be written down, > and I would like to challenge that assertion. I'd also like the people > who claim to know the Way best to work as hard as possible on that, too. > We need all those voices of how people interpret The Apache Way. And as > Dave hints, we can triangulate its essence with more and more > descriptions. I think it'd be premature to try for that triangulation > without interested parties working on capturing it for themselves first, > revised for a 2019 perspective. > Exactly. Sometimes when it is said it cannot be written down, it can mean that it cannot be written down simply and declaratively. Or that it cannot be expressed by being written just once or one way or by one or a few people. The concepts in a novel, an ethnography, or a biography, or even short parables, for example, cannot be simply extracted and written as declarations. The practices of a culture cannot be described fully either, nor transmitted by reading. It may be that the large corpus of writing and slideshows and talking about The Apache Way is a great way to, in fact, write it down. And IMO in such a situation it is important to keep writing about it, and have new people keep writing their take, and to share stories about it. Etc. And of course, it should be expected to constantly change. Kenn > > -Joan "dust yourself off and try again" Touzet > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >
