The measure passes. I will place the following text on the board agenda: "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
The vote results are as follows: (The * indicate someone who is listed in the D&I proposal.) (The - indicate someone who made the caveat that the board should decide the committee form or someone who is ambivalent about committee form.) +1, Binding (8) Myrle Krantz * Shane Curcuru * Ross Gardler * Gris Cuevas * Bertrand Delacretaz *- Oliver Heintz Sharan Foga - Rich Bowen *- +1, Non-binding (8) Naomi Slater * Joan Touzet * Awasum Yannick Pierre Smits Jacques Le Roux Nate McCall Dinesh Joshi * Kevin McGrail *- -1, Non-binding (1) Tim Williams Other, Binding (2) Ulrich Stärk "+0. not sure if a president's committee is the best way of getting this done or whether it would be better to have it as part of ComDev. But better do something than nothing at all. Plus, we can fix stuff later so I'll leave it to those wanting to drive it to figure it out." Jim Jagielski "I am +1 on the spin out; I am -1 on ComDev specifying a President's cmmt as the form of the spin out." For the record: Proposed text for the resolution was made available for discussion on April 30th here: https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b985c0a7c00bf8bc7239721b233f3fc76e49a9e8e5809b8c02cd5f7d@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E Separate discussion of the committee form was started here on May 1st. The last post on that thread also occurred on May 1st. https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/460bb18a855a1682a4ccab35b8c7d1a5bc9830ce394be28cb4f82de2@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E One person declined to participate, the rest seemed generally in favor of a president's committee. I explicitly stated that I would delay the vote on this measure until the discussion about committee form had completed, making it clear to the PMC that this vote was also about the form of the committee: https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/fecbfbd78dad49325ba036a9ea10d2fbf9bf804a6abce11c3054b7e0@%3Cprivate.community.apache.org%3E I started the vote on May 5th, 3 days after the discussion on committee form completed. I'm closing it now on May 10th (5 days later). There was wide ranging and extensive discussion in the month of April, and considerable time to participate in the more targeted discussion at the beginning of May. I am posting these results to both comdev and board, because the level of consensus w.r.t committee form has been a topic on board. Best Regards, Myrle PMC Member, Apache Community Development On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 6:40 PM Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgr...@apache.org> wrote: > I'm +1 [non-binding] for splitting D&I from ComDev off into it's own > committee/PMC/initiative/etc. It hasn't been done well under comdev and > it's time to give it a shot on it's own. > > -KAM > > On 5/8/2019 10:48 AM, Myrle Krantz wrote: > > FYI all: > > > > I'm going to call the vote on Friday morning (CET). If it passes, I'll > > also add it to the board agenda at that time. I ask that everyone who > > wants to participate do so by then. > > > > Best Regards, > > Myrle > > > > On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 1:53 PM Tim Williams <twilli...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > >> -1... it's completely unnecessary (as the work could easily be done > under > >> the CommDev banner) and gives the sense of "action" towards a cause > without > >> actually solving any real problem. Ironically, I predict it will > fracture > >> the community and have the effect of removing diversity of views on this > >> very subject - creating an echo-chamber. It'll pass though, so best > >> wishes... > >> > >> Thanks, > >> --tim > >> > >> On 2019/05/04 22:06:47, Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote: > >>> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board: > >>> > >>> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's > >>> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be > >>> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF > formulate a > >>> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC > >>> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in > which > >>> ComDev can support our progress in these areas." > >>> > >>> Here's my +1. > >>> > >>> Best Regards, > >>> Myrle > >>> PMC Member, Apache Community Development > >>> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >> > >> > > -- > Kevin A. McGrail > Member, Apache Software Foundation > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >