Hi Dave,

Thank you very much ... highly appreciated 
:-)

Chris

Am 08.05.19, 21:26 schrieb "Dave Fisher" <dave2w...@comcast.net>:

    Hi -
    
    I’ve submitted INFRA-18350 Gitbox - Improve Generated Email Subjects
    
    I’ve suggested a shorter, more consistent email subject. Threading is being 
worked on slowly.
    
    Regards,
    Dave
    
    > On May 8, 2019, at 7:15 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
    > 
    > Hi -
    > 
    > I find it nearly impossible to follow GitHub (GitBox) emails. I know 
Infra has done some work on threading these which has improved the situation. 
More needs to be done to improve the subjects. Perhaps we can also create 
digest emails.
    > 
    > For JIRA I guess since I’ve used JIRA off and on since JIRA version 1 AND 
it is easier to have a meaningful subject I’m less concerned.
    > 
    > Regards,
    > Dave
    > 
    > Sent from my iPhone
    > 
    >> On May 8, 2019, at 4:24 AM, Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> 
wrote:
    >> 
    >> Hi Lars,
    >> 
    >> I agree that Jira emails have been there for quite some time. 
    >> It seems as more projects are starting to discuss things in jira.
    >> What I'm more referring to is that with the jira issues, it would be 
great if the title of these emails could be stripped down drastically.
    >> Could imagine the email of the user doing something being used as sender 
and for example strip down the whole "JIRA Christofer Dutz commented on 
PLC4X-0815: yadda yadda" to something like "PLC4X-0815: yadda yadda (New 
comment)"
    >> It's all this nonsense prefix to the interesting part of the mail title 
I'm mostly criticizing. 
    >> Besides the lack of content in the GitHub emails, which is a second 
issue for me.
    >> 
    >> Chris
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >> Am 08.05.19, 12:05 schrieb "Lars Francke" <lars.fran...@gmail.com>:
    >> 
    >>   Hi Chris,
    >> 
    >>   I partially agree with you.
    >> 
    >>   I agree with Github pull requests. They are hard to follow and hard to 
read
    >>   (and I don't only mean the mails but also on the site itself).
    >> 
    >>   I disagree with the Jira mails though. I wouldn't really know how to
    >>   improve those and I like that the discussion is part of the issue 
itself
    >>   and I don't agree that this has changed recently. Jira discussions have
    >>   been happening like this for years at least in the projects I'm 
working on,
    >>   so nothing really has changed there. They can't really put much 
content in
    >>   the subject?
    >> 
    >>   I also dislike that it's getting harder to keep track of things with
    >>   Github + Jira. There are open Jira issues with "Pending Review" (or
    >>   similar) state and there are open Pull requests where there used to be 
only
    >>   one place.
    >> 
    >>   Do you have any suggestions on how to improve this?
    >> 
    >>   Cheers,
    >>   Lars
    >> 
    >>   On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 10:13 AM Christofer Dutz 
<christofer.d...@c-ware.de>
    >>   wrote:
    >> 
    >>> Hi all,
    >>> 
    >>> I have noticed in a lot of projects I am involved in, that my active
    >>> participation has dropped with more and more communities shifting to
    >>> discuss things in jira and using github code reviews.
    >>> 
    >>> Usually I used the title of emails to decide on which discussions I 
should
    >>> follow … this worked great till all topics sort of start with:
    >>> 
    >>> [jira][someoperation][somproject-someissueid] some description
    >>> 
    >>> Or even worse:
    >>> 
    >>> [GitHub] [someproject] someone commented on a change in pull request
    >>> #someid: some description
    >>> 
    >>> …
    >>> 
    >>> Is it just me, or do you also have problems mass-scanning mailinglists
    >>> with these titles in most of their emails?
    >>> I mean … I am currently following about 30-40 email lists and I really
    >>> have to be efficient in keeping up to date.
    >>> 
    >>> For me I think it’s really damaging as I am not willing to manually go
    >>> through all the Jira issues and github pull requests or github issues to
    >>> scan through masses of emails to find the usually minimal information 
they
    >>> contain.
    >>> Especially github reviews really piss me off as the net information
    >>> content for each of these emails is minimal their use is minimal as the
    >>> context isn’t contained and I have to click on 10 emails to get the 
point
    >>> of one single review.
    >>> 
    >>> I think it’s great to be open to changes, but we really have to ensure 
we
    >>> don’t lose what has been good.
    >>> 
    >>> What do you think?
    >>> 
    >>> Chris
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >> 
    >> 
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