My ethics teacher in high school summed it up well I thought in stating
your rights end where mine begin.

Owen Rubel
oru...@gmail.com


On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 1:14 PM Eric Covener <cove...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 2:32 PM Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 30/03/2019 13.23, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Mar 30, 2019, at 1:32 PM, Eric Covener <cove...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I'm not going to (intentionally) actively discriminate for or
> against anyone. But I will protect your right, as an individual, to do so
> as long as you protect my right to help you achieve the
> > >>> right balance in our broader communities by stamping out the
> existence of any discrimination (positive or negative).
> > >>> Community over code
> > >>
> > >> How do you square this with the code of conduct? In my reading, unless
> > >> the discrimination threaded some extremely fine needle, it would be in
> > >> violation and a good argument could be made for the defense of it
> > >> being in violation as well.
> > >
> > >
> > > Discrimination, by definition, is unjust, unwarranted or prejudicial.
> >
> > We discriminate all day long in our every day life, it's fine, as long
> > as it serves a greater good (or our personal selves). I don't get to go
> > into your house without you inviting me in, you don't get to claim
> > social benefits while you have a job, I can't apply for TAC - all
> > perfectly valid, legal cases of discrimination, that would not violate
> > the CoC. It's more about the action and consequences than the
> > dichotomous definition of a term here.
>
> But those aren't the kinds of discrimination that anyone would talk
> about needing to be "protected" as a right or "stamped out of
> existence", nor the ones relevant to the current threads on
> D&I/meritocracy.
>
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