Hi Chirs, I agree some disagreements exist. Practically I suppose adding (or removing) people to(or from) committer and (P)PMC status is a very sensitive thing, so there should be an opportunity of veto.
While process changes and releases can't be vetoed, adding committers or PMCs should be consensus only. If it is the Majority approval it is always easy for some commercial company to take full control of any project. In this case, some individual PMC has almost no influence on PMC members/Committers. All people from a company will generate as much +1's as needed to elect new PMCs/Committers, even if this one true volunteer will vote -1. Sincerely, Dmitriy Pavlov ср, 20 мар. 2019 г. в 15:43, Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de>: > Hi all, > > I’m currently working on finishing some things in preparation of > graduation … one thing we were requested to address, is to do an assessment > of the Apache Maturity Model for our project. > > Within this, there’s a rule: > CS40 - In Apache projects, vetoes are only valid for code commits and are > justified by a technical explanation, as per the Apache voting rules > defined in CS30. > > This sort of contradicts the rules for incubating projects specified by > the Incubator, which says: > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DefaultProjectGuidelines > > - Consensus Approval< > https://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#ConsensusApproval> – > Consensus approval requires 3 binding< > https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#binding-votes> +1 votes and > no -1 votes (vetoes<https://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#Veto > >). > > So for Consensus Approval there are Vetoes and code changes apply for Lazy > Consensus. If there are actually vetoes for code changes, I can imagine > that quite some projects would stall instantly. > > > The incubator guidelines state for adding (or removing) people to(or from) > committer and PPMC status, these guidelines claim them being Consensus > Approval, which allows vetoes. > > Would be cool if this could be streamlined to be more aligned. Right now I > claim that the PLC4X project simply fails CS40 as this contradicts the > incubator rules. > > Chris >
