Ok ... 

I just requested more information on the terms and conditions as I couldn't 
find this publicly. 
I'll open a legal issue as soon as I get the information.


Chris


Am 13.12.18, 11:10 schrieb "Mark Thomas" <ma...@apache.org>:

    On 13/12/2018 08:28, Christofer Dutz wrote:
    > Hi all,
    > 
    > currently the production industry is all about “industry 4.0” and this 
mainly covers topics like: Cloud, BigData, Machine Learning … while we know 
that Apache has a lot to offer in that regard.
    > Still Siemens is doing a lot in promoting their MindSphere platform and 
are gaining some traction in the industry.
    > 
    > Especially in the IoT projects of Apache it would be great to be able to 
talk to that platform the same way we can with Azure, Google, AWS, … 
unfortunately an insanely expensive membership is needed.
    > 
    > In all of my recent meetings with Siemens, I always underlined that I 
would love to support MindSphere, but I and I bet most others here at Apache 
are definitely not going to pay 10k€/year in order to develop software for 
Siemens in my free time. Now after a lot of constant nagging on different 
occasions, I was told that even if Apache is not a research or academic 
institiution, they would be willing to grant the ASF the same status. However 
someone with the formal capacity to do so would have to fill out the form.
    > 
    > So my question is: Would there be an interest in this? And who should I 
involve in this?
    
    It sounds like that form is more like a legal agreement. On that basis
    I'd say start with the legal committee. It may be VP Legal that signs it
    but the first step will be to review the terms.
    
    Mark
    
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