I agree that it's hard to be a critical and crucial part of a community without 
being *IN* the community.

More than anything, the PMC is the entity within the ASF that is the community 
representative for a project. They "run" the project for the community with the 
understanding that they understand the community best. If someone is not IN the 
community, nor active in the community, how can they serve that role?

> On Nov 2, 2018, at 5:56 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:22 AM Christofer Dutz
> <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>> ... So if someone is an awesome coder, but doesn't communicate, I would not 
>> invite him or vote for inviting...
> 
> I agree with that when it comes to inviting people on a PMC.
> 
> I think it's fine to accept code contributions from people who are not
> visible on the project's lists, but I would not invite them on a PMC.
> 
> Having *committers* who are not visible on the project's lists might
> be ok, but the PMC is a *management* committee, and that requires open
> communications, not just code.
> 
> -Bertrand
> 
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