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> On Oct 3, 2018, at 11:58 AM, Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Would it make sense to add a question about the form of a
> participant's contribution?  (ie, code, marketing, QA, UX, tech docs,
> logo, organizational, and I know I'm forgetting something important
> please forgive me)  I'd be interested in seeing in numbers how good we
> are at recognizing non-code contributions with committership.

Helping users on the mailing list.

And great idea!

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 9:26 PM Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Agreed. It should not be significantly longer. Even without being
>> longer or differently scoped, it occurs to me that an "Annual
>> Community Survey" may just be better branding and may elicit more
>> responses.
>> 
>> I'd be happy to try to help with reviewing and providing feedback on
>> question wording and survey length.
>>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 3:09 PM Joan Touzet <woh...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> One problem with such an approach is that by lengthening the survey, you
>>> end up with more "drop-outs," i.e., people who don't finish the complete
>>> survey. This means that you have a reduced sample set. I believe the 2016
>>> survey didn't count any partial responses, which is typically good
>>> practice from a quantitative standpoint.
>>> 
>>> I'm not opposed to a couple of questions, but we shouldn't take what was
>>> an 8-ish question survey and turn it into a 20-ish question survey. The
>>> 13% response rate we had would likely be halved, if not worse.
>>> 
>>> -Joan
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Christopher" <ctubb...@apache.org>
>>>> To: "ComDev" <dev@community.apache.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 1:52:44 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Running another ASF Committer Diversity Survey
>>>> 
>>>> Would it be possible to widen the survey's scope to a broader
>>>> "Community Survey", while still retaining the diversity questions as
>>>> one component, but also including other non-diversity questions
>>>> pertaining to the ASF community at large?
>>>> 
>>>> This suggestion comes from some conversations in Montreal, where some
>>>> of us discussed the desire to have some additional feedback from our
>>>> community. For example, one question I remember being discussed in
>>>> particular was something like "If the ASF had more money, what should
>>>> it do with it?" (possible answers: marketing materials provided to
>>>> PMCs, hire more INFRA, provide EC2 credits to PMCs or INFRA for CI,
>>>> publish educational/outreach materials for distribution, other). I'm
>>>> sure we could come up with additional questions for the non-diversity
>>>> component to the survey as well.
>>>> 
>>>> Does broadening the scope of this survey to include diversity and
>>>> non-diversity components make sense?
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 5:30 AM Sharan Foga <sha...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi All
>>>>> 
>>>>> It’s been nearly 2 years since we ran our ASF Committer Diversity
>>>>> Survey so I think it's about time that we looked at running it
>>>>> again to see if things are changing. For those of you who haven't
>>>>> seen the details or the results from our 2016 ASF Committer
>>>>> Diversity Survey then you can find them at the link below:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://s.apache.org/lV9h
>>>>> 
>>>>> Our original 2016 survey was run to:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  -  help us get a picture of our existing diversity as all our
>>>>>  committers are linked to all ASF projects, and also;
>>>>> -   to create a baseline measure so we can see if we see if we are
>>>>> improving or not in our diversity efforts.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So I think that it would also be good to discuss and review the
>>>>> survey questions to see if we can improve them or the phrasing to
>>>>> better capture the data. Also if anyone is interested in helping
>>>>> out then please let me know.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Sharan
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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