Speaking as somebody who has caused to be printed and given away bunches of Apache project logo stickers, I don't see much market that we are taking away. When I give away logo stickers, I tend to buy at least hundreds of them so the Apache store wouldn't affect that. But there are lots of times when I don't want to go through the hassle of dealing with that many stickers and so I would be thrilled to be able to drop ship a few logo stickers or t-shirts.
But seriously, we are talking at most hundreds of dollars in displaced profit. IF this were a serious business opportunity, there would be people doing it. Only companies like red bubble or stickermule are in the business and they are only in it because there are gazillions of different things that people want to print, not because ASF logos are a market. IF somebody wants to do the setup work, that sounds great to me! On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org> wrote: > Personally, I would worry about having an official ASF licensed store in > this sense, for precisely > the reason cited below - that it would remove market opportunity for > downstream ASF $commercial > entities, big or small. That said, I don't have the energy, nor desire to > contribute to, or block this, so > consider this simply my opinion with my ASF member hat on. > > Chris > > > > On 3/4/18, 3:28 PM, "Rich Bowen" <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote: > > We have in the past been reluctant to have an official stoee because it > removed business opportunities from others who want to run a store. > > That said, nobody is, and the attempts to do so in the past haven't > amounted to much. And I'd like a place to replace my Apache members > tshirt > which is falling apart. > > So, sure, if someone is going to do the work to make this happen, go > for > it. > > When we set up https://www.zazzle.com/featherwear I was surprised by > how > much work was required to set up each product - most of which have now > been > removed because they were classic feather logo. > > On Sun, Mar 4, 2018, 15:20 Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'd like to propose setting up an official ASF swag store. I recently > > came across RedBubble [1] who produce stuff through geographically > > distributed agents so the post costs remain reasonable world-wide. > > > > My thinking is to do this with the logos for as many ASF projects as > > possible and for as many of the products that RedBubble offer as > possible. > > > > These are the prices[2], excluding shipping and mark-up. The standard > > mark-up is 20% which I propose we use with all of this being passed > to > > the ASF. > > > > The plan, assuming there is general support, would be: > > > > - Set up the account and figure out all the admin side of things > > - Pick a project to start with to test things out > > - Email all PMCs to > > - inform them of the store > > - ask them to add a link to it on their web-sites > > - ask them to provide logo(s) in suitable resolutions > > - Upload logos for those PMCs that provide them > > - Work through the logos for the PMCs that don't in slower time > > > > I need to run this past a few other folks as well. My intention is to > > point them to this thread and ask for feedback. > > > > I don't intend this to replace any stores committers, PMCs, community > > members etc. are currently running. I view it more as a way of > providing > > a default selection of swag for as many projects as possible. > > > > Thoughts? Feedback? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > [1] https://www.redbubble.com/ > > []2 https://help.redbubble.com/hc/en-us/articles/206409096 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > --------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >