Hi Joe,

Sure we should look into svn history.

Regards,
Dave

> On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Joseph Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com.INVALID> 
> wrote:
> 
> Would be more interesting to find out the genesis of that dreck and why it 
> persisted til now.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 5:29 PM, Chris Johnson <ch...@meaningfulwerks.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Dave - this was constructive, and well thought.  I agree.
>> 
>> CJ
>>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 4:27 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi -
>>> 
>>> Does Comdev control the page /foundation/voting.html?
>>> 
>>> A member of the Apache OpenOffice community pointed out that the following 
>>> phrase discourages participation:
>>> 
>>> Who is permitted to vote is, to some extent, a community-specific thing. 
>>> However, the basic rule is that only PMC members have binding votes, and 
>>> all others are either discouraged from voting (to keep the noise down) or 
>>> else have their votes considered of an indicative or advisory nature only.
>>> 
>>> I think that this should be rewritten as:
>>> 
>>> Who is permitted to vote is, to some extent, a community-specific thing. 
>>> However, the basic rule is that only PMC members have binding votes, and 
>>> all other votes are advisory.
>>> 
>>> It has been reported that people are discouraged from participating with 
>>> the “to keep the noise down” commentary and I agree.
>>> 
>>> Here is a current situation in Apache OpenOffice where we have been 
>>> regrowing the community and we just had an important -1 from a community 
>>> member that prevented a bad release. We must be careful that the English on 
>>> our pages is not tortured and overly pedantic.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>> 
> 
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