totally agree sorry I know I'm new but this would help a lot of newbies to the 
mailing list because with this portal we can know all the projects available so 
we can join up, excellent idea! 

    On Friday, July 21, 2017 4:25 AM, Christofer Dutz 
<christofer.d...@c-ware.de> wrote:
 

 Hi,

interesting topic with the job-posting … which reminds me that I wanted to ask 
something going down a similar path, but couldn’t quite figure out where to 
ask, but I think this list is could be the best fit :-)

For the last years I have been investing almost all my free time in Apache 
Projects and the ASF itself. Unfortunately I haven’t ever been able to do a job 
using the projects I’m spending all my time in. So I started thinking, why is 
this that way and how could this be changed.
I think in general you will probably get more public awareness by posting 
articles in newspapers or blogs, but what if I would rather invest my time in 
doing instead of talking?

Most people I’m currently thinking about are pros in talking about stuff others 
created for them and for that they get to do fun jobs with cool projects.

So here’s my idea: How about having the opposite of the jobs mailing list? 
Instead of a list where people can ask for people for a given task, we could 
provide an Apache portal in which committers of ASF projects can sign up to be 
listed to be available and interested in projects and consulting for the 
projects they invest their time in? Some automated data (committer/pmc/since 
when). Some textual information where the person can write down a little about 
what he’s doing in the project, where he’s located, what type of work he’s open 
to be doing. Making it easier for people to find the right guy for the job. All 
together with a little tooling in which someone can get in touch with the guys 
without simply dumping their email addresses publicly.

On the one side this would be one list, in which you can only get listed by 
giving something to the community first and on the other side it would make the 
less talking guys be noticed more, eventually helping them get the jobs they 
deserve.

I for my part am so totally sick of doing one legacy crap project after the 
other for yet another bank and am so totally losing my drive to develop at all. 
I’m even thinking of switching my profession completely away from IT.
If I was able to have the companies using the stuff I build - and hereby 
qualify as a pro in the topic equally as the big talkers – find me, I guess my 
job would be the best I could imagine, but right now I’m so totally sick of it 
:-(

What do you think of a thing like this? Has something like this been discussed 
before?

Chris



   

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