For me, the key is the "official release" - an official release has been
voted on by the relevant PMC and approved for use.  The labeling of it -
alpha, beta, etc is moot.  Maybe we should take out that part and instead
use:

Only release artifacts that have been approved by the relevant PMC may be
linked from the download page. All other download links should be removed
in a timely fashion.

?

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:32 PM Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org> wrote:

> I agree with Stian. It was discussed ~12-14 years ago, how to deal with
> "release for public consumption", "release for beta testers", "nightly
> builds" and so on. And AFAIR, the Stian's explanation mirrors the consensus
> from back then, and perhaps the wording is not optimal.
>
> Niclas
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 10:31 PM, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hang on, it's perfectly fine for ASF projects to publish and link to
> > milestone/alpha/beta releases - as long as they have also gone through
> > a formal release VOTE and checking, they are still "official
> > releases".
> >
> > http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#release-types
> >
> > What is confusing about your quoted pagraph is that it uses the
> > terminology "not full official releases" misleadingly -- but those
> > should still be "official releases" - just not at a "stable" or
> > "general availability" maturity level.
> >
> > What is NOT ok is to link from the download page to a non-voted on
> > SNAPSHOT build or similar.   That is quite clearly explained in
> > http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html - but perhaps not on
> > release-download-pages.html.
> >
> > On 7 December 2016 at 12:31, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > The following text is found on
> > > http://www.apache.org/dev/release-download-pages.html#links (4th
> bullet
> > in
> > > that section)
> > >
> > > Artifacts which are not full official releases (for example,
> milestones,
> > > betas and alphas) may be linked from the download page. Links to these
> > > artifacts should be removed in a timely fashion.
> > >
> > > I believe it's missing a "not" and should be
> > >
> > > Artifacts which are not full official releases (for example,
> milestones,
> > > betas and alphas) may not be linked from the download page. Links to
> > these
> > > artifacts should be removed in a timely fashion.
> >
> >
> >
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> > Stian Soiland-Reyes
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