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On 6 Jul 2015 23:45, "Pierre Smits" <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Actually, Martin, I read that too a while ago, and I can't regard it as
> anything else but just a viewpoint expressed by someone who is reacting to
> a posting of someone else....
>
> Such an expression neither makes it a policy of the ASF, nor justifies why
> the board, when voting on a podling wishing graduating to TLP, keep
> something going on that is considered by some as disgusting or as adding no
> value by others.
>
> If it were as simple as some regard this aspect of doing the right thing,
> then a simple vote would solve it (for the time being) and both board and
> Incubator could adjust their procedures and instructions to all
> accordingly.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
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> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Marvin Humphrey <mar...@rectangular.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 12:51 AM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I find myself disgusted by this widespread assumption that each project
> > > needs its own bylaws. WTF for? Are not ASF policies and practices
> enough
> > > for everyone? What sort of bylaws could you possibly invent that are
> > > both a useful extension of these policies and practices /and/ are not
> > > applicable to other projects?
> >
> > Here's the historical rationale for per-project bylaws, which explains
> > why it's in the TLP resolution template:
> >
> >   http://s.apache.org/why-project-bylaws
> >
> >   Apache doesn't have a single set of project bylaws/guidelines because
> >   we want projects to be self-governing...
> >
> > Speaking with the benefit of hindsight not available to those who
> > blazed the trail, my assessment is that while the idea of making
> > projects think about governance is laudable, drafting bylaws is too
> > difficult a problem to be tackled by each new TLP.  Minute drafting
> > errors cause large problems.
> >
> > Marvin Humphrey
> >
>

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