Pierre, Rich is not picking on anyone. He used a relative example, nothing more.
As for Rich and others in the ASF running to the names they know what do you think he and others have been doing to get the talks in that we got? If Rich (and others) didn't work so hard there would be no talks and *that* is the point. Rich - thank you. Ross -----Original Message----- From: Pierre Smits [mailto:pierre.sm...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:04 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Why the Apachecon (was Re: ApacheCon NA CFP closed) Rich, There is no need to pick on OFBiz. I have organized the speakers for ACEU 2012, ACEU 2014 and together with Sharan interesting talks for ACNA 2015 are lined up. Each were/are full tracks. Again for ACNA2015 I experienced unwillingness upfron at some parties because of skewed cost/benefit ratios. Nevertheless, like for ACEU 2014 we have more talks for ACNA 2015 than space in a track. We even have input for a panel/Q&A session, that we are looking into. If you (or your assisting organisation) want sponsors for such tracks, I suggest you/the ASF run to the names you know and start asking. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote: > > > On 02/04/2015 03:42 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: > >> We are discussing again, as it seems to me, what the purpose of the >> Apachecon is based on talks submitted. And why is that? >> > > > For what it's worth, we have made a concerted effort for ACNA15 to ask > project communities to step up to make ApacheCon what they think it > should be. If a project wants a track (even now) and can provide the > content for it, we'll schedule it. > > If OFBiz, for example, wants to provide us with a track that has more > the focus that you think we should have at ApacheCon, make it happen, > and we'll schedule it. (I pick on OFBiz, at least in part, because > they made a real effort to do this exact thing in EU.) If that brings > sponsors along with it, all the better. > > The open CFP phase is over, but if someone brings me a track (n * 6 > talks, for an n day track), we'll make it happen. Within reason - in > agreement with Joe's comments else-thread, I'm not keen on running > corporate advertisements at ApacheCon. But if there are companies that > are deeply involved in an ASF project (as is the case at OFBiz), then, > yeah, I'd love to see their content showcased. > > So, yes, we can only schedule content that is submitted, but we've > made an effort this event to go out and get those submissions from > specific communities. At future events, we'd like to see more > communities step up to do this hard work. > > > -- > Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - > @apachecon >
