On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 8:26 AM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Benedikt Ritter <brit...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > over at the Apache Commons Project, we have a long discussion about our
> > mailing lists. Are they to noisy? Should they be splitted up into
> sublists?
> > Should individual components go TLP?
> > IMHO Ben McCann summed up the core problem pretty well [1]. Mailing lists
> > are simply a outdated tool from the 90s. They can not compete with tools
> > like github/gitlab that integrate the code with the possibility to do
> code
> > reviews, disucssions and bugtracking.
> >
>
> So there are reasons that we choose to mandate mailing lists, and one
> of them is traceability. People know where to look for decisions; ten
> years down the road we know where to look for decisions and know that
> we are retaining the information.
>

YES! +1000!

Mailing lists are THE most common denominator for internet communication in
my opinion.


>
> Github is a great tool for review workflows, but it isn't mutually
> exclusive with mailing lists. Infra built integration[1] that lets you
> have both worlds. Every discussion comment from github copied to a
> mailing list, and every mailing list comment in that thread copied
> back to Github. Many projects (more than 40) are using this to great
> effect - it's become a core part of their contribution and review
> workflow, many have tied it into Jenkins or Travis so they get CI
> feedback in the process.
>
> --David
>
> [1]
> https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/improved_integration_between_apache_and
>



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