A couple of years ago I had the same concerns. I got pushback on messing with 
the TLD pages (perhaps more accurately there were so many strong opinions it 
wasn't worth the argument, plus the task is daunting to say the least). Instead 
I started trying to create "signposts" into our dense TLD pages.

That work was done as part of ComDev, see community.apache.org

My plan was to identify the important stuff. Write a para or two on it and then 
deep link into the TLD fire hose. Secretly I hoped that one day the ComDev 
pages would become the TLD pages and the fire hose would disappear deep into 
the reference section of our site.

Anyway, the point is that I agree with you. You might choose to build on the 
ComDev stuff. You might choose to tackle the TLD stuff head on. Whatever you do 
I'm sure it will be worthwhile.

Ross

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________________________________
From: Igor Galić<mailto:i.ga...@brainsware.org>
Sent: ‎11/‎25/‎2014 7:53 AM
To: dev<mailto:dev@community.apache.org>
Subject: (improving) New Committers Info


Fellow Humans,

this weekend the trafficserver team added a new committer,
which means that i sent out this wonderful template with
a link to

   https://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html

for further information.

Who of you remembers getting that email?

and who remembers reading it, and weeping softly, because you
had no idea what's going on, and how you'll ever stand up to
the impossible standards of the demi-gods that just stretched
out a finger to you?

or is that just me? oh, well…

well, one way or another, these walls of text, and i'm using the
plural here, because in trafficserver's case we also invite people
to the PMC at the same time, which means they also get:

   https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html

are profoundly unhelpful, out-dated, and to quote rich:


07:40 <+rbowen> igalic: Very discouraging and overwhelming.
07:40 <+rbowen> Almost all of the first block of questions are ... pointless
07:40 <+rbowen> What is an infrathon? Really? That's what a committer needs to 
know?
07:41 <+rbowen> I find these pages that are just a list of questions to be 
exactly the wrong way to go about it.
07:41 <+rbowen> I don't even know what the questions mean, as a new committer, 
let alone care about the answers.
07:42 <+rbowen> Seems that the version control questions should go first 
anyways.
07:42 <+rbowen> When do I need to use svn lock?
07:42 <+rbowen> um ... what's svn lock?
07:42 <+rbowen> Ah, the answer is "don't do that"
07:42 <+rbowen> Brilliant.
07:42 <+rbowen> This page makes me cry.

But! There's a silver-lining on the horizon here:

07:43 <+rbowen> On the bright side, nobody is ever going to find these 
documents on their own.


So I'd like to solicit some help fixing these pages to
contain useful information…

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Igor Galić

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