Well, you can't deny that I did propose an amendment to the by-laws a
posting ago. :-)

Regards,

Pierre Smits

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On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Issac Goldstand <mar...@beamartyr.net>
wrote:

> No, because contributors aren't proposing anything as far as the ASF is
> concerned.  They're just having a discussion.
>
> Until it comes from a member, it's not a nomination or a proposal or
> anything other than a discussion.
>
>   Issac
>
> On 08/07/2014 15:44, Pierre Smits wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > Taking into consideration that nominate and propose - in general and in
> > this context - mean the same and that any contributor can propose
> > potentials for ASF Membership, shouldn't the by-laws of the Foundation
> > reflect this?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> > Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> > Based Manufacturing, Professional
> > Services and Retail & Trade
> > http://www.orrtiz.com
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, of course a community member can propose a member. As Rob says, the
> >> nomination and election has to be done by the Members, but not all
> projects
> >> have existing members acting as the eyes and ears.
> >>
> >> Of course, not having members in a project community shouldn't impact
> the
> >> project since it is self-managing and membership is only a foundational
> >> level thing. Nevertheless, the membership needs to be a good
> cross-section
> >> of our project communities.
> >>
> >> If a community member feels someone is being overlooked a mail to
> >> priv...@community.apache.org will reach people who can add notes to the
> >> member watch list.
> >>
> >> This is the right list for discussing what we look for in members.
> >>
> >> Sent from my phone - please forgive brevity and typos
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: "Rob Vesse" <rve...@dotnetrdf.org>
> >> Sent: ‎7/‎8/‎2014 10:42
> >> To: "dev@community.apache.org" <dev@community.apache.org>
> >> Subject: Re: Proposing for Apache Member?
> >>
> >> Pierre
> >>
> >> Not unless one/more of those contributors is themselves a Member/Officer
> >> of the ASF - see Sectopn 4.1 of the Bylaws
> >> (http://apache.org/foundation/bylaws.html#4.1) which states the
> following:
> >>
> >> To be eligible for membership, a person or entity must be nominated by a
> >> current member of the corporation and must complete a written membership
> >> application in such form as shall be adopted by the Board of Directors
> >> from time to time
> >>
> >>
> >> Therefore contributors of a project can't directly, I guess they could
> >> talk to ASF members they know and suggest that person with the aim of
> >> getting a nomination but not being a member myself I'm not sure if that
> >> would be acceptable behaviour.  Ultimately ASF is a meritocracy and my
> >> personal impression based on people who I know of who've become members
> in
> >> the past couple of years is that to become a member you need to be
> active
> >> across the foundation (not just within a small part of it) for a
> prolonged
> >> period.
> >>
> >> One thing worth asking is why the community you are involved in feels
> the
> >> need to have someone be elected as a Member?
> >>
> >> Rob
> >>
> >> On 08/07/2014 09:43, "Pierre Smits" <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> Is it possible that contributors of a project can propose a community
> >>> member to be elected as an Apache Member?
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Pierre Smits
> >>>
> >>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> >>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> >>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> >>> Services and Retail & Trade
> >>> http://www.orrtiz.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

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