On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> > > On 12/25/2013 07:16 AM, Gabriela Gibson wrote: > > Hi > Rich, > > > You asked for ideas for > keynotes. > > I'm not sure this idea is quite keynote speech material, but I looked your > links up and thought that > you're the right person to send this letter to. > > At the next Apache Con, I'd love to hear a talk that introduces a newly > revamped Apache Labs community and invites everyone to come and take part. > > > Not sure if this is keynote material, but it's certainly an interesting > topic. > > If we were to do this as a keynote, who do you imagine would give the talk? > > I think Jan had a great idea when he suggested Tim as the speaker --- and it would give Labs the top-notch promotion it deserves (and needs). > > > Now, I know I'm an ASF newbie and don't know much about Apache (yet), but > I'd like to say that I believe that a thriving Apache Labs community is > very important. > > Apache Labs should be the grand front portal for ASF where new ideas, > projects and new committers are won. > > True, ASF is big and has much kudos, but we still have to compete, and > currently GitHub and BitBucket is eating our lunch! > > > I've never really thought of them as competition. I tend to think that > innovation is good wherever it happens. Do you know if anyone is pitching > Labs as a competitor to those guys? > > GitHub et al. are not strictly competition as such, but since ASF is the biggest Open Source provider with ~4000 members, should we not provide an alternative for our members, if only to allow projects to grow in the Apache way, right from their inception? Apache Labs could be a great 'idea & people magnet' with many benefits: * starting a community with people who already know the Apache way has a bigger chance of success and makes the transition to Incubator (if it happens) much smoother. * potential new committers will find new projects to be an easier starting point and could be recruited to ongoing Apache projects * because there is always 'something new', people would be tempted to visit us more often and 'cross fertilization' would happen naturally, simply due to the ensuing diversity of talent. * existing projects would find it easier to collaborate on projects useful to both of them in a neutral space and attract outside members. I can only see upsides and no downsides and it would be nice to hear from the Apache "kernel"/founders/members where they see the direction and intention of a project like Apache Labs. Regards, Gabriela -- Visit my Coding Diary: http://gabriela-gibson.blogspot.com/