Btw, we could do the same for Win* as well. I usually only use *nix (Linux, 
Solaris and AIX) or Mac, but sometimes I'm forced to use Windows at some 
customers.

I _never_ touch those Windows boxes without the following tools installed:

* Console2: http://sourceforge.net/projects/console/files/console-devel/2.00/
This is a multi-browser-tab console which is dynamically resizeable. You can 
also define mark, copy & paste gestures for your mouse (like in Unix). There 
are also tons of hot-keys e.g. for switching between those console tabs. And 
you can of course install your own shells into it!

* msysgit: http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/

Not only is GIT itself great, but it comes with a really great bash out of the 
box! There is a vi and even the file browsing is unix style: c:\windows is 
available as /c/windows/. Tab completion works well, etc

Now you can easily add the bash from msysgit to Console2 as new default console 
tabs and you end up with a resizeable multi-tab Unix shell for windows, with 
less, vi, tail, find -exec, tee, wc, ... !


* VirtuaWin http://virtuawin.sourceforge.net/?page_id=2
This gives you a few 'virtual desktops' as you know it from many Unix window 
managers. Very useful if you have to work with multiple projects open at the 
same time.

Sorry for the slight OT, hope some of you find this useful.

LieGrue,
strub




----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com>
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Cc: Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>
> Sent: Thursday, 27 June 2013, 17:59
> Subject: Re: Setup & development software for Macs?
> 
> Having come from a FreeBSD background, I find MacPorts much better.
> 
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>  Regardless of which you choose,
>> 
>>  +1 non-deterministically for either brew or mac port.
>> 
>>  Very useful.
>> 
>> 
>>  On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> 
> wrote:
>> 
>>>  Try http://brew.sh
>>> 
>>>  Yes brew vs mac port is probably like vi vs emacs :-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  2013/6/27 Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>:
>>>>  probably the most important for me is mac ports. It's basically 
> a BSD
>>>  package manager with OSX packages. You can install all the *NIX stuff
>>>  easily.
>>>> 
>>>>  There is also a graphical UI called Porticus.
>>>> 
>>>>  LieGrue,
>>>>  strub
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>  From: Roger and Beth Whitcomb 
> <rogerandb...@rbwhitcomb.com>
>>>>>  To: dev@community.apache.org
>>>>>  Cc:
>>>>>  Sent: Thursday, 27 June 2013, 6:21
>>>>>  Subject: Re: Setup & development software for Macs?
>>>>> 
>>>>>  As far as basic text editors, TextWrangler is probably the 
> best:
>>>>>  http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/ (and it's 
> free). Also
>>>>>  available via the App Store.  Although the XCode editor is very 
> nice as
>>>>>  well.  And I've used UltraEdit on a PC, and they now have a 
> Mac version
>>>>>  (cost is minimal) (
>>>  http://www.ultraedit.com/products/mac-text-editor.html).
>>>>> 
>>>>>  ~Roger Whitcomb
>>>>> 
>>>>>  On 6/26/13 8:47 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
>>>>>>  I tested disk I/O before and after enabling FileVault and 
> couldn't
>>>>>  really
>>>>>>  tell the difference.  I also turned it on after I had quite 
> a bit of
>>>  stuff
>>>>>>  on the disk and it didn't take all that long to convert 
> (considerably
>>>>>  less
>>>>>>  than all night).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Leave the firewall on.  It is very easy to poke and then 
> repair holes
>>>  when
>>>>>>  you need them.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Luciano Resende
>>>>>  <luckbr1...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Shane Curcuru
>>>>>  <a...@shanecurcuru.org>
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  I just switched to a Mac for much of my stuff, and 
> am wondering how
>>>>>  other
>>>>>>>>  committers organize their Macs and what kind of 
> software they use.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  In particular, what's the best GUI-ish SVN 
> clients?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  Your favorite basic text editors?  I don't need 
> a big IDE, just
>>>>>  simple
>>>>>>>>  markdown/python/ruby, and occasional web page 
> editing.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  Also, a silly question, I know, but if I have my 
> work on SSD, is
>>>>>  there
>>>>>>>  any
>>>>>>>>  reason that I should *not* configure FileVault?  It 
> seems like a no
>>>>>>>  brainer
>>>>>>>>  for any laptop.  Similarly, any reason to turn off 
> the built-in
>>>>>  Firewall?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  Related, what are decent options for parental 
> control software for
>>>>>  macs &
>>>>>>>>  iPads?  It's obvious that we will need some way 
> to restrict and
>>>>>  monitor
>>>>>>>>  what our daughter does on the computer...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  Thanks in advance!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  - Shane
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  Take a look at this, seems like some good pointers :
>>>>>>>  http://www.josebrowne.com/from-windows-to-mac-dev.html
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  Also, install Xcode command line tools, that should 
> give you most of
>>>>>  what
>>>>>>>  you need (e.g. svn, git, and some other stuff required 
> for basic dev)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  As for FileVault, I use that with no issues (and you 
> know, it's
>>>>>  kind
>>>>>>>  required by our employers... in case you ever use your 
> mac for
>>>>>  work)....
>>>>>>>  but if you choose to do it, do it now, while you 
> don't have much
>>>>>  content on
>>>>>>>  the SSD. Firewall is always ON as well.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>  Luciano Resende
>>>>>>>  http://people.apache.org/~lresende
>>>>>>>  http://twitter.com/lresende1975
>>>>>>>  http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  --
>>>  Olivier Lamy
>>>  Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
>>>  http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
>>> 
>

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