Hi Mark, On Dec 29, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Mark Struberg wrote:
>> If you are saying this is compatible with ALv2 ? Then why use Apache >> Extras instead of just the oodt SVN official repo in Apache ? > > But that's exactly the point! It is NOT ALv2 because it seems that Chris' > project compiles against GPL sources and thus also must be GPL licensed. Yeah I wasn't sure of that. I would say my 4 Java files are ALv2 licensed, but that they include runtime dependencies (via Maven2) on LGPL code. I'm not a license expert, but I thought that would be OK. I know you have a TON of open source legal knowledge and have respected your opinion on it for a while so you tell me. > > Would it be possible to have it under the package org.apacheextras ? Yeah I thought about that too. I'd be ~ok with that compromise but still question what we are doing if our own PMCs can't start up a project on Apache Extras and use org.apache.* as a namespace. > If we don't even allow that, then we can just close down apacheextras.org - > because then there is no use for it imo. Super +1000. That's what I'm rapidly realizing. Why the heck did we associate ourselves with Apache Extras if it's just Google Code? I'd go further and say if my 2 concrete proposals are shut down I'll likely just take the oodt-pushpull-plugins project down, throw it up on Github or something under my personal account, change the namespaces to something nice and snarky like org.apacheextrassucks.anotherapacheprojecttogit.* *grin* > > Of course this all implies that apacheextras will make a prominent mentioning > that apacheextras != ASF and apacheextras might not only contain ALv2 > licensed sources but also others. Yeah, precisely. Thanks for getting what I was saying Mark! Cheers, Chris > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Luciano Resende <luckbr1...@gmail.com> >> To: dev@community.apache.org >> Cc: >> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 9:13 PM >> Subject: Re: Apache Extras Question >> >> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) >> <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: >>> (removing community@ from the CC list; aren't we trying to kill that >> thread?) >>> >>> Hi Ross, >>> >>> Thanks for replying. Comments below: >>> >>> On Dec 29, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: >>> [...snip...] >>> >>>>> >>>>> It's my understanding that anyone can start up a project at >> Apache Extras, >>>>> in which case, if that person doesn't have an availid here at >> the ASF, and >>>>> doesn't have an ICLA on file, then that's another >> situation that I won't >>>>> speculate on. What I'm much more interested in is in the >> situation I presented >>>>> within this thread. I have an availid. I am an ASF member. I was >> looking >>>>> at Apache Extras as a place to share some Apache OODT plugins that >>>>> leverage code that is LGPL licensed, that I couldn't otherwise >> share within >>>>> the normal Apache OODT SVN home. Prior to me coming to Apache >> Extras, >>>>> this has been code housed in an internal JPL SVN repository for >> years, even >>>>> before we brought the software to Apache. I'd like to use >> Apache Extras to >>>>> facilitate sharing with an even broader community and to share the >> plugins >>>>> we've developed (which themselves are ALv2 licensed) with >> others. >>>> >>>> The ASF does not release code under any license other than the Apache >> license, >>> >>> Who asked to release the code? I just want an SVN to throw the code up at. >>> If you look at oodt-pushpull-plugins [1], the LICENSE.txt file is ALv2. The >> code >>> we wrote (in Java) is ALv2. The code includes a runtime Maven2 dependency >>> on libraries that provide FTP protocol implementations (Ftp4Che [2] and >> JvFtp [3]) >>> that are LGPL licensed. >>> >> >> If you are saying this is compatible with ALv2 ? Then why use Apache >> Extras instead of just the oodt SVN official repo in Apache ? >> >> -- >> Luciano Resende >> http://people.apache.org/~lresende >> http://twitter.com/lresende1975 >> http://lresende.blogspot.com/ >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
