Hi Piotr,

On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 8:22 AM Piotr P. Karwasz
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Gary,
>
> On 2.11.2025 13:11, [email protected] wrote:
> > +pub   ed25519 2025-10-27 [SC]
> > +      F4DD59C90148BDC52BEB90A4530AA5F25C25011F
> > +uid           [ultimate] Gary Gregory <[email protected]>
> > +sig 3        530AA5F25C25011F 2025-11-02  [self-signature]
> > +uid           [ultimate] Gary D. Gregory <[email protected]>
> > +sig 3        530AA5F25C25011F 2025-11-02  [self-signature]
> > +uid           [ultimate] Gary Gregory <[email protected]>
> > +sig 3        530AA5F25C25011F 2025-10-27  [self-signature]
> > +sub   cv25519 2025-10-27 [E]
> > +sig          530AA5F25C25011F 2025-10-27  [self-signature]
>
>
> Do we have a formal procedure for key rotations?

See https://infra.apache.org/key-transition.html

>
> Since your key is effectively the authoritative one for Commons, I’d
> expect at least the following steps:
>
> - Signing the new key with your old key (86fdc7e2a11262cb),

There is a discussion in the page above "for and against signing the
old key with the new".
You're suggesting the opposite? I did neither.


> - Uploading the new key to a public keyserver (I couldn’t find it on
>   keyserver.ubuntu.com, though all keyservers should sync eventually),

I just sent it to hkps://keyserver.ubuntu.com

> - Possibly documenting the change via an announcement on user@, dev@,
>   and the Commons website.
>
> Are there any additional steps we should take?

See https://infra.apache.org/key-transition.html#update-documents

> Since I haven’t signed
> any releases myself (in Logging Services the CI handles that), my
> signature wouldn’t add much value for end users, but perhaps it could
> be signed by other keys used for recent Commons releases.
>
> Is there an established procedure for signing code-signing keys?

See https://infra.apache.org/key-transition.html#wot

There are a lot of pages to read, starting with
https://infra.apache.org/key-transition.html ...

HTH,
Gary

> The
> usual approach (meeting in person to verify fingerprints and check a
> government-issued ID) doesn’t really apply here. After all, the ASF
> relies on social identity within the community rather than state-issued
> identification. However, we could sign your new key and send it to your
> ASF email address as a form of verification.
>
> Piotr
>
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