Hello.

Le jeu. 14 déc. 2023 à 12:10, Arnout Engelen <enge...@apache.org> a écrit :
>
> Hello Commons developers,
>
> I'd like to discuss what our security ambitions are for components like
> Commons Imaging, Compress, Codec and IO:
>
> Generally for Commons, we say that unless otherwise specified it is up to
> the user of the library to make sure any input is either trusted or
> correctly validated/sanitized (https://commons.apache.org/security.html).
>
> For these modules it might make sense to be a little more nuanced:
> https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-imaging/ already explicitly says
> it intends to be "more secure against corrupt/malicious images", and while
> the others don't seem to say it explicitly AFAICS in practice we consider
> it OK to decompress/decode/... untrusted input at least to some degree.
>
> So what does that mean?
>
> * I'd say parsing/decompression/decoding should never allow malicious input
> to trigger arbitrary code execution(?)

+1

> * Should parsing/decompression/decoding protect against 'disproportionate'
> CPU usage?
> * Should parsing/decompression/decoding protect against 'disproportionate'
> memory usage?
> * Should parsing/decompression/decoding protect against 'disproportionate'
> disk usage?
>
> Where we say 'yes',

I vaguely recall a similar conversation where the answer was "no" (IIRC).
[Along: "What is the definition of disproportionate?"]

> we should also decide whether we intend to treat such
> issues as security problems (that should be fixed with some priority and,
> after release, disclosed in an advisory) or bugs/improvements (where we can
> possibly take more of an 'issues and patches welcome' position).
>
> I'm curious about your thoughts!
>

If "Commons" intends to provide utilities with the same purpose across
components, it would be sensible to have them defined in a "lower"-level
component on which [Imaging], [Compress], ... would depend.
Especially if the corresponding code is purported to be focused on security,
"let's just copy the source" should not be allowed.

Regards,
Gilles

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