As example for dependency-hell, slf4j 1 and 2 use same namespace, means if
some dependency use slf4j1 and another use slf4j2, some really disgusting
thing will happen.
I suffered from that, once.

Xeno Amess <xenoam...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月31日周一 下午9:59写道:

> BTW.
> From my own view, we might need a testing maven project (or a github
> repo), for ensuring all commons repos can be used together, free of
> dependency hell, or other internal errors about using different versions of
> a same dependency.
> But I admit that will really be a time-costing work, and be really hard.
> I don't know if we can achieve it by adding the "proper" repo and add a
> module pom at base folder, and adding some tests...
> Just, I think it useful.
>
>
> John Patrick <nhoj.patr...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月31日周一 下午9:51写道:
>
>> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 14:16, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 9:11 AM Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Git submodules are pointers to other git commits. Therefore, any
>> component
>> > > changes made don’t affect the mono repo until you update said mono
>> repo to
>> > > point to the new commit. If you do this to point at the latest release
>> > > tags, this makes for less updates. Otherwise, you’ll want to figure
>> out a
>> > > CI system for automatically updating submodules to the latest master
>> > > commits as they pass CI.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Can that commit be HEAD?
>>
>> Used git submodules loads 2010-2015, and not much since. But from
>> memory it can't be HEAD it has to be a specific commit hash.
>>
>> We had loads of issues when people worked on the sub modules
>> independently, it was easier when every worked with the parent git
>> module. But that was early 2010's so it might now allow HEAD or a
>> named branch say develop or master/main.
>>
>> We also had loads of maven warnings because we had a wrapper project
>> so from the git parent module it saw the submodules as maven modules.
>> But the git parent module maven pom wasn't the parent pom of the git
>> submodules maven pom. As parent automatically is
>> <relativePath>../pom.xml</relativePath>
>>
>> Our setup was;
>>
>> git-module
>> -> pom.xml (GAV project:maven-wrapper:1)
>> -> git-submodule-parent
>> --> pom.xml (GAV project:parent:1)
>> -> git-submodule-core
>> --> pom.xml (GAV project:core:1, parent GAV project:parent:1) So
>> correct relative path is ../git-submodule-parent/poml.xml
>>
>> They had ~35 git submodules, not sure if they are still using submodules.
>>
>> So it can be useful if you want to have component based git repo's but
>> it does add an extra overhead layer of maintenance and everyone needs
>> to be onboard from experience.
>>
>> John
>>
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 05:17 sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 15:01, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 9:47 AM Rob Tompkins <chtom...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > > > On Aug 30, 2020, at 9:44 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > > > Some questions:
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > > > - does it affect any existing usage?
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >  i.e. can people continue to use the individual repos exactly
>> as
>> > > > before
>> > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > > no they can’t
>> > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > Yes they can... this would be a new repo, and changes nothing for
>> > > current
>> > > >
>> > > > > usage. This does not affect existing repos.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > What about my other queries?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > - changes to commit messages:
>> > > >
>> > > >  can people commit to components directly from the new repo?
>> > > >
>> > > > If so, does that change the commit messages?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > - maintenance of the new repo:
>> > > >
>> > > > what is involved, and how will the project know when updates are
>> needed?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > Gary
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > > > - does it affect Git emails in any way?
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >  e.g. do they have different text?
>> > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > > same emails
>> > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > > > - will it need much maintenance?
>> > > >
>> > > > > > > If so, how do we know when it needs updating?
>> > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > > more maintainance, have to maintain a git hash at a symlink
>> pointing
>> > > > to an
>> > > >
>> > > > > > external repository
>> > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > > -Rob
>> > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > > > On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 14:26, Gary Gregory <
>> garydgreg...@gmail.com
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >> Yes yes "girl" -> "git"
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >> On Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 09:24 Gary Gregory <
>> garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>> > > >
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>> I'm talking about girl's own submodules:
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>> https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-Tools-Submodules
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>> https://git-scm.com/docs/git-submodule
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>> Gary
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 09:09 Rob Tompkins <
>> chtom...@gmail.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>> By git submodules, are you talking about a symlink to
>> another
>> > > git
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>> repository inside one of our repositories?
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>>
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>> -Rob
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>>
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>>> On Aug 29, 2020, at 6:52 PM, Gary Gregory <
>> > > > garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>>> Hi All,
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>>> Any thoughts for or against creating a new git repository
>> which
>> > > > would
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>>> contain all 'proper' Commons components as git submodules?
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>>> The idea is to be able to checkout all of Commons
>> 'proper' in
>> > > > one go
>> > > >
>> > > > > > in
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>> one
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>>> place.
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>>> Gary
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>>
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>>
>> > > >
>> > > > > > >>>>
>> > > >
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