On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 at 18:09, Gilles Sadowski <gillese...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Le sam. 29 févr. 2020 à 18:39, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 5:25 PM Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I would like to do the same in Lang as with Collections (see below.)\
> > >
> > > We currently perform checks like:
> > >
> > > Validate.isTrue(foo != null, ...)
> > >
> > > Which should be IMO:
> > >
> > > Validate.notNull(foo, ...);
> > >
> > > The difference being that the former throws IAE and the later NPE.
> > >
> > > As with [collections], my argument is the same, the JRE uses
> > > Objects.requireNonNull() to throw an NPE, so I'd like to keep normalizing
> > > on that.
> > >
> >
> > Any thoughts? Should I proceed?
>

+1

> +1 for NPE on unexpected null.
> [But perhaps it is not necessary to double-check, as the JRE
> will do it anyway (and throw NPE).]

Depends on how and where the variable is used -- sometimes a null can
cause hard to track errors, not necessarily NPE, and the exception (or
possibly other failure) may be a long way from the initial method
call.

It's almost always better to report the problem as early as possible.

I think the existing checks should be kept.

If it can be proved that the code would generate NPE immediately
anyway, it might be worth dropping the check.
However, code changes, so at least a comment should be left in its
place to note that the code is relying on Java to generate the NPE at
this point.

> Gilles
>
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > > From: Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> > > Date: Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 9:59 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [collection] NPE vs IAE in
> > > org.apache.commons.collections4.CollectionUtils
> > > To: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org>, Bruno P. Kinoshita <
> > > brunodepau...@yahoo.com.br>
> > >
> > >
> > > FTR, using requireNonNull is also an 'Effective Java' recommendation.
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 4:54 PM Bruno P. Kinoshita
> > > <brunodepau...@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > >>  +1 for NPE
> > >>
> > >>     On Friday, 6 December 2019, 5:22:34 am NZDT, Gary Gregory <
> > >> garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>  Hi All:
> > >>
> > >> org.apache.commons.collections4.CollectionUtils contains a mix of 
> > >> checking
> > >> for null inputs by throwing NullPointerExceptions in some methods and
> > >> IllegalArgumentExceptions in others.
> > >>
> > >> I propose we standardized to NPE simply because the JRE provides
> > >> Objects.requireNonNull() just for this purpose.
> > >>
> > >> Gary
> > >>
> > >
> > >
>
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